The one thing we can be thankful for is having 'fans' who call our players crap. Absolutely pathetic.
we are still top of the CCC so lets keep positive get behind the boys and stop moaning, its worrying when the away form seems to be better than the home Make the guys feel at home not under the microscope we are doing alright OTBC
Charlton are a very well drilled team and results like this happen especially in the Football league. You can't win them all but at least Adams tries to. Also what Jarold said^^^.
DM - Grabban's all round game isn't good enough. You can forgive him that if he's a clinical finisher, but he's not. Not even close. One instance tonight, Redmond gets the ball wide, crosses it in around knee height, Grabban six yards out tries to volley it, falls over his own feet and makes no connection with the ball. He does it multiple times every game. I had no preconceptions about Grabban before he came here. Didn't know an awful lot about him, other than he played in League 1 with Bournemouth. My opinion is based on seeing him 10 times this season. (Jerome was very poor tonight too.) I wasn't too worried about it, as I thought we'd be fine once Hoops got back. However, watching him for the 21s the other night was ominous. He looked like he couldn't have cared less. To be fair, he might not have done as it was only a 21s game, but would hope to see an improvement it effort levels should he come back into the first team.
You can play badly and win - and you can play well and lose. Whatever - frustrating as it can be, I've no problem losing as long as we go down fighting, which we did tonight.
I'd say Hooper is a much better player than Grabban, whether his head is correct I do not know. I have no doubt an on fire and fit Hooper would get 25+ goals in a season and contribute all round more far more than Grabban. Grabban started off well but it is becoming clear he is a scorer only, if he fails at this aspect then he does not warrant playing.
My mate is a Millwall fan and he cant believe the goals Grabban has got for us as he was in his opinion hopeless at the Den. I watched the U21s game on line and thought Hooper looked pretty poor but obviously I have not idea where he is in his recovery. I see Grabban missing a few chances but after last year can forgive him as I am at least seeing chances whether Hoops will finish better only time will tell was not at Carrow Road tonight was watching the mighty Hythe town lose 2-0 at home, so my voice all ready for Saturday
He was better than Jerome at least, he was bloody shocking and didn't look interested, at least Grabban was a live wire and got himself into positions where he had chances (that he missed)
Maybe we should have shown more intent in the transfer market and signed Mccormack or Rhodes instead of these bargain basement journeymen?. Hooper didn't have a single shot in the League cup and from what I saw in the U21s he did absolutely nothing yesterday . This romantic idea that he will find his Celtic form may be an Illusion.
I don't think Jerome was shocking, he looked tired to me. He's just played several games, more than he's played for a while. I feel he needs a break just to re charge. Grabban, he's still managing to get into goal scoring positions but he's still missing them. I just don't see him as a goal machine. I'm really wanting to see Hooper back soon just to mix things up a bit. Teams are starting to see how to stop us now so a rotation of players might just freshen it up. I'm disappointed tonight but not to down beat, it was a freak result, draw a line under and move on to Rotherham.
I'm inclined to agree with that. I didn't think we'd beat Charlton tonight in all honesty, but when you see how the game unfolded it makes it even more difficult to take.
P.S - Worst ref I've seen this season. Looked like at least one absolute nailed on penalty for hand ball in the second half.
The game proved to big for the ref IMO, causing him to just make no or in most cases the wrong decisions. The hand ball in the second half was a nailed on pen, 99 refs out of 100 would give that every time. He just seemed out of his depth.
He was definitely affected by the crowd chippy. When the Barclay was singing 'you don't know what you're doing' you could see him shaking his head - don't know who he was, but it may well be that he was out of his depth. Shyed away from the big decisions.
Sounds weird considering we've averaged 2 goals a game, but do we need a forward on loan? Everyone seems to agree that Grabban has a poor touch and is wasteful, Jerome has looked good so far but he could be one of those forwards who is on fire for the first few games and then fades, Hooper seems to be lying on the sofa watching golf whilst eating deep-fried Mars bars, and Loza is a kid. Personally I wish we had kept Ricky and got rid of Hooper, although I know lots of you will disagree with that. I'd have taken 20 points from the first 10 games at the start of the season, though.