Northampton Town to do one?

Those crowds you mention in those days if you had thrown a frog stick on Anlaby rooooooooad you'd have got a bigger crowd fighting for the white crust.

 

Yet they didn't get them for rugby games.

 

We are poor in ULL

 

didn't see anyone else answer, so...

60/61 Promoted from Div 4 to Div 3
61/62 8th in Div 3
62/63 Promoted from Div 3 to Div 2
63/64 11th in Div 2
64/65 Promoted from Div 2 to Div 1
65/66 Relegated from Div 1 to Div 2
66/67 Relegated from Div 2 to Div 3
67/68 17th in Div 3
68/69 Relegated from Div 3 to Div 4

It was bottom to top and back in 9 seasons.

 

Yes, 29,000 for a midweek game with just under 25,000 the previous Saturday against Norwich and nearly 36,000 there the following Saturday against Portsmouth. Just short of 90,000 in 7 days going through the turnstiles at BP. (I wonder how many more we would of got if we had the marvellous arrangements for purchasing tickets we have now instead of that awkward, old fashioned method of rolling up, queuing and handing over money to a person operating a turnstile?). Not bad for somewhere that has always been a rugby city.
1966, City on a high, England World Cup Winners, great music and fashion, this country the centre for music, fashion and everything else. The weekend starting with the words " The weekend starts here..." at the beginning or Ready Steady Go. What a time to be 16. Wouldn't swap it for anything. Much preferable to sat inside interacting via social media like so many young people are nowadays.

 

At least old people get to interact via social media these days...

 

They were all down the pub years ago socialising. Which do you think was better?

I would rather have had the time I had at 16-20'than what they do now. More freedom to do what I wanted, when I wanted. Same probably applies to your age group whose younger years weren't spent in front of a screen or on a mobile phone.

Useful things, and handy for occupying some time (and for accessing a mine of information though using it to actually learn anything or find something out isn't what a lot of young people use it for given their lack of general knowledge of awareness of a lot of things).


Have you read Billy Liar? As you get older you get more like Councillor Duxbury. "There were nowt like that in my day". In fact he just used to preface things with "There were nowt like that..." as everyone knew the rest.

 

Me personally? No. I accept things change and move on, little sense in wasting effort either trying to stop it, or moaning about it.

The generation before you spent their late teens and early 20s fighting and dieing in World Wars.

Yes they achieved something great, but I bet they'd rather have done other things.

You have a very jaded view on the youth of today, which I assume is based on your own experiences and for that you have my pity. They're not all like that.

Mine is different. I see kids (and I'm talking early 20s here) learning how to become a nurse, travelling, reading, raising a family, leaving school at 17 but training to be a vet nurse then living in Texas for a couple of years, getting IT Degrees and learning every single day and in general learning about life and the world in the same way we did, except differently.

Things are different. Not worse. Just different.

 

Great post! How very true. I think the schools have a lot to do with it.

 

Yes, my parents spent their late teens in a world war. My dad getting sunk twice in the navy and my mother winning a medal on an ack battery. As I got older and thought about it I can understand my dad's exasperation at this long haired know it all in house lecturing him on the need to change things and how he didn't appreciate the stresses and strains us young people were under. We were indeed lucky at my age. End of conscription, first generation not involved in a major war, teenagers being a separate thing instead of just going from school to being miniatures of your parents, more money, more freedoms than young people had ever had. Didn't stop us moaning of course. No wonder some adults shook their heads.
Not based on my own experience. Just on observing a lot of young people in my pub, out and about and on TV. Not all, because as you say many are getting on with things. I assume the commendable examples you refer to are your own but unfortunately an awful lot are not like that.
The banality of the so much social media and young people with access to so much who spend their time texting and stuck with a phone on their ear exchanging inanities reminds me of something Alexander Solzhenitsyn said.
After his expulsion from the USSR he said he consoled himself with the fact that he would at least be living in a world where you could talk and express things freely without surveillance and being punished or imprisoned for expressing views contrary to that of the authorities. He was so disappointed to find that in reality this freedom wasn't used to discuss matters of importance but banalities and trivia. He couldn't wait for the day when conditions altered and he could return home.

 

Yes some were examples of my own, some I work with and some feel like they're mine.

Actually now I think about it, I do moan about them on occasion, and I've found myself wondering why they don't listen to my awesome wisdom too...I guess making mistakes is what makes us.

I had a great time as a youth, despite some quite difficult struggles, and I wouldn't change what happened back then. I am however happy my kids haven't gone through what I have, although they have their own struggles and challenges.

It's funny now hearing my eldest say stuff like "oh, now I get it. I see why you said/did what you said/did dad/mum" as she learns how to be a parent.

Meanwhile I get to do the stuff with my granddaughter that would have driven me insane with my girls.

 

Wait until you tell them something and your wife informs you that you told your dad he was an idiot when he expressed a similar point of view. And don't think she won't revel in the opportunity to do so. At every available opportunity
Great being a grandparent. Get to enjoy things, be regarded as this kindly person who spoils them rotten then hand them back and not have to endure sleepless nights, tantrums, arguments over being told what to do and later worry about school work, who they are associating with and what they are getting up to as they get older. Marvellous thing being a grand parent.

 

We've raised four kids. One of our daughters (who has two under the age of 3, and also works full-time, and for whom we baby-sit) made me laugh yesterday when she pronounced how difficult it is to raise a family. It certainly is, but having grandchildren (we have five) makes it all worthwhile! Baby-sitting is the best job in the world. FACT.

 

Being a grandparent is brilliant - last year my youngest g'daughter wrote an essay about her favourite meal, hers was ''sat on the grass eating strawberries, dipped in cream, from grandads garden'', it fair choked me up ............... when her mum read the story she asked if we'd washed them first ....... takes after her mother!

 

lol was just talking about how my missus is a drama queen with stuff like that too.

 

Ha-ha, our daughter is exactly the same. 'Teaching your grandmother to suck eggs' comes to mind!

 

If anyone ever remarks on the naffness of Grandad by Clive Dunn, point out it was written by .Herbie Flowers, who did the legendary bass line introduction to Walk On The Wild Side and the singer and writer of this track by one of my favourite 60's bands. First record someone played guitar with a violin bow to the surprise of a number of Jimmy Page fans,

 

Having 2 of our 6 Grandkids staying this weekend, 3 yrs & 5yrs, absolute pleasure, they look on it like a holiday in the countryside here in very rural Wiltshire, with Grandma and Granddad Chicken, as do their parents when they stay. Only 35 miles from their home in Bristol, but a different world. Also what a pleasure after 2 days to be able to hand them back.

 

All of them someone's sons or daughters