I think we should bring this back to footy before a mod comes along and deletes a bunch of pages. Interestingly I'm live streaming with an Aussie mate later (he usually does culture/politics) about the Champions League games, he's an Arsenal fan and I'd like to see Kane win something so we'll be opposite sides on that one.
This isn't quite what Kipling wrote. This is a much more recent adaptation of the poem. Kipling used the word English instead of Saxon and was referring to the response of the public towards Germany during WWI. Kipling wrote it after his son died in the conflict. The version with the word 'Saxon' in it is often used by some people who aren't up to date with current thinking about Saxon society.
Traditional views of Saxon society have been superseded with the understanding that it was a lot more complex.
My point is that that version of the poem is used by people who don't know as much about Saxon society as they think they do.
Well, its often groups who try to legitimise their claims by using inaccurate or out dated information. A bit like the Saxons did when they tried to claim ancestral rights to the regions they moved into by burying their dead in Bronze Age funerary monuments.
I mean, that's interesting and all but I still don't see how that is relevant to anything we've discussed. Why don't you just say whatever it is that you actually want to say and I can give you a rebuttal, or we can just move on, your call mate.
I thought I'd been pretty clear. The version of Kipling's poem that you posted isn't what he originally wrote. I just thought I'd point out the source you'd got your version from isn't very reliable.
