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Discussion in 'Hull City' started by ImperialTiger, Oct 15, 2015.

  1. Party Hull!

    Party Hull! Well-Known Member

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    Beaten by seconds!!
     
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  2. Chilton's Hundreds

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    So if £531 is deemed too expensive what constitutes a fair price for 23 Championship games ?

    At what price do we tempt back the 3-4000 ?
     
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  3. originallambrettaman

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    I just checked the BBC report and it does make clear that the Reading price is age specific - "Reading's £135 season ticket is the cheapest in the top four divisions in England - although this is for 18-24-year-old supporters only. League One Bradford City's £149 is the cheapest available to all supporters. National League side Eastleigh charges £120."

    The cheapest in the Championship, open to all, is actually Charlton at £175.
     
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  4. The Omega Man

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    Hull City
    South Stand


    Price
    Adult
    £531
    Senior (65+)
    £276
    19-22 Year-Olds
    £255
    13-18 Year-Olds
    £95
    Juniors aged 12 and under
    £32

    Reading

    Lower West, East, North

    Adult £395
    65 and over (concession) £250
    18-24 (concession) £135
    17 and under (child) £99
    7 and under (child)
    FREE

    Read more at http://www.readingfc.co.uk/news/article/season-tickets-300514-1591136.aspx#cQrRbrMeDdVWzyGp.99

    "The problem is that it is not a fair comparison. Readings "cheapest" season ticket is £135 yet the BBC fails to say that Hull City has a very similar ticket priced at £255. Which makes a nonsense of the claim that we have the highest starting price for adult season tickets.

    Very poor reporting by the BBC."

    I stand by my post. OLM had the grace to accept the post for what it is and I accept his further points.

    Where in my post do I deflect the issue? I am simply pointing out that the BBC like you have got it wrong, but you want to make it something that it isn't. What's up doesn't it fit with your agenda driven postings?

    The quote from your post "Adults can't watch City unless they can afford at least £531 a season. That's a simple but shocking fact." is wrong isn't it. Adults can if you use the example given by the BBC of Reading watch City for £255. Both you and the BBC cannot have it both ways, either you use the same starting point or the statements means nothing.

    What you do not like is to be challenged on anything that you do or post?
     
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  5. DMD

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    What about £460, for everyone, irrespective of age or location in the ground? That's £20 per game.
     
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  6. Chilton's Hundreds

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    No age concessions at all ?

    We'd probably lose even more season ticket holders...
     
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  7. Party Hull!

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    My pass would have been £550, or £545 approximately to renew. Not sure precisely, but about that.

    I would have renewed if £100 was knocked off. I still think that would be over priced, but I'd pay it. Realistically, £400 would be about right in my opinion.

    I don't see it getting anywhere near that for a long while, so essentially I believe my days of football supporting are over.

    I'm 31.

    My salary is not increasing at all, hasn't for years. The cost of living is, but nowhere near the rate of Hull City's price increases. Eventually, you have to make a decision.

    Factor in the Hull Tigers **** and there was no other option.

    I will not be taken the piss out of.

    I don't get value for money anywhere these days, but I recognise overt cleansing agendas when I see them.
     
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  8. The Omega Man

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    Thanks for clarifying that. I still think that it is poor reporting. If they had then said that Hull City's in the same category are £255, I would have had nothing much to complain about. In fact why they bothered to mention it at all baffles me. The gap between Reading "adult" season ticket and Hull City's is significant enough.

    Reading is a hard club to understand what is going on supporter wise. It is an expensive place to live and property prices are high. It may be that it is a commuter belt town and its population has a background of supporting London teams. I have a few clients in Reading and only one supporters the club (that I know of). I would have expected it to have attracted higher gates. It does have retail and industrial developments as well as a hotel, supporting it. It has plans to build more units on one of the car parks as well.
     
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  9. DMD

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    I was being semi-flippant. It's all a balance, other clubs may have a limited number of lower priced cheap tickets, but they could well also have higher priced more expensive tickets. At the moment, it could be argued that the more expensive tickets are being subsidised by the others.

    It's why I say that looking at this as purely a Hull City issue is probably not going to achieve the changes needed right across football.
     
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  10. DMD

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    Simply looking at the price of one category is a failing in itself. What's the view or facilities like in that price bracket, how many tickets are available, what's the cost of the highest priced ticket? Is that a normal price, or are they struggling to get people in? So many variables..
     
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    No free games? Where's the incentive? Or are you suggesting £30 per match ticket and therefore a saving £230 or nearly 8 games free?
     
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  12. Chilton's Hundreds

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    It won't be a popular move but I believe the OAP age concession should be changed. As demographics change so should the philosophy behind the pricing structure. A lot of the over 65 Boomers are now better enough then working people.
     
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    I'm not really suggesting anything, the question was asked, what is a reasonable price, £20 a game seems reasonable to me, why should it be conditional?
     
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    When you really think about it, even £20 is expensive. At face value, and forgetting arguments about standing/atmosphere for the moment, £20 for an uncomfortable cramped plastic seat exposed to all weather elements for 90 mins entertainment. You can get a comfortable, spacious seat in an air-conditioned cinema for half that price and often more than 90 mins entertainment, (only problem is the crowds in cinemas tend to make more noise than in most modern football stadia).
     
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    I'm not sure what your point is at all.

    You brought the example of Reading up in your defence of Allam's Tigers Ltd and you've now demonstrated what a big difference there is between their cheapest adult season ticket and ours. Which was the original finding of the study and the main topic of debate in this thread.

    Seems you were desperate to defend the almighty regime abd tried to pick holes in the research but failed badly.

    And you say I don't like something which doesn't fit my agenda? Open your eyes.
     
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  16. originallambrettaman

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    I think £20 is the magic number, anything under than and people think it's decent value, as soon as it goes over that people give it a lot more thought and start looking at match by match tickets (which currently don't cost much more).
     
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  17. Chazz Rheinhold

    Chazz Rheinhold Well-Known Member

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    No its still an economic arguement. Dropping form the championship to L1 isnt as bad as dropping from the PL to the Championship. As i said in my first post. I dont want high ticket prices, why would i? I just understand we need to make up lost revenue.
    I arent lying AP said it, if we had been relegated he wouldnt look at reducing ticket prices. FACT

    I tell you what lets copy Man city exactly. We're roughly half the size stadium. So we'll sell 4000 at £299. Brilliant wont those 4000 people be happy. So how many shall we sell at £1799 Man Citys highest? They went from £895 by the way.
    So we should sell 6000 at that price and lets say the other 10000 at 600 quid.
    We'll definitely sell out as we're selling passes at £299 and we care...
     
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    I was going to say the exact same thing but thought, surely I'm missing something here? Mel mate, you seem to have erm...had a senior moment?
     
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  19. Chazz Rheinhold

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    I'd suggest you look at some of David Conn's articles on the owners or Amnesty but hey if they're letting you design a badge then **** locking people up, torture, holding people without trial, show trials etc etc Its a far away country and you couldnt give a **** ditto Party
     
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    Are you alright Chazz? You seem a little bit frazzled my old chum :huh:
     
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