No second EU referendum!!

[TC (Lovely Geezer)]

So that's more important than the security of our people and the ability to provide for our population by being able to trade.
This sovereignty is that established via the existing parliamentary democracy and an independent judiciary? (even you know why I am asking).
Or are you suggesting a new constitution?

What are you babbling on about?
Do you think that not being able to make your own laws makes you more secure?
And we will always be able to trade - you keep banging this drum, but it simply will not happen
At the moment 59% of our laws are made by the EU - and we cannot change them without a majority vote.
Again, we have tried to do this 72 times and lost 72 times - how difficult is that to comprehend?

 

[TC (Lovely Geezer)]

Thought it would be some nebulous bollox like that

I read that already but ignored it as its no tangible use, leaving aside it's not true in practice. As a little country going cap in hand to various large trading blocs/countries we will have to agree to do what we are told - that's what we mean by 'we've got our country back' I guess

You mean the little country that happens to be their biggest export market
Please stop

You ignored it because it blows all the tripe you have posted out of the water

 

[Chippy / Glory]

What are you babbling on about?
Do you think that not being able to make your own laws makes you more secure?
And we will always be able to trade - you keep banging this drum, but it simply will not happen
At the moment 59% of our laws are made by the EU - and we cannot change them without a majority vote.
Again, we have tried to do this 72 times and lost 72 times - how difficult is that to comprehend?

Just cos you say we will get a trade deal as good as we have now doesn't make it fact no matter how often you repeat it.
We need the single market and to keep that according to the current EU stance comes free movement, adherence to the European courts and abiding by the rules laid down by the elected European parliament. NOT WORTH THE RISKS.

 

[Chippy / Glory]

You mean the little country that happens to be their biggest export market
Please stop

You ignored it because it blows all the tripe you have posted out of the water

We need them more than they need us....
Manufacturing plants and banking facilities can be moved, ownership can change.
How many finance houses have already started the move from Paris or Frankfurt?

 

[TC (Lovely Geezer)]

Just cos you say we will get a trade deal as good as we have now doesn't make it fact no matter how often you repeat it.
We need the single market and to keep that according to the current EU stance comes free movement, adherence to the European courts and abiding by the rules laid down by the elected European parliament. NOT WORTH THE RISKS.

But the EU lawmakers are not elected

 

[TC (Lovely Geezer)]

We need them more than they need us....
Manufacturing plants and banking facilities can be moved, ownership can change.
How many finance houses have already started the move from Paris or Frankfurt?

None

 

[Millwallsteve]

Oh Contraire

Odds on ARTICLE 50 being triggered in 2017 have gone from Evens to 1/3
Odds on not happening at all have gone from 8/1 to 33/1

Stop lying chippy (on shoulder)

odds were 1/5 when the vote result was announced now 1/3. As i said its getting less likely... At this rate by the time we are due to actually leave it will be 4/1.

Really Norman?!!

http://www.oddschecker.com/politics/british-politics/article-50

 

[Chippy / Glory]

None

so they were made up tories in the pro brexit press over the weekend . How come you believe some coverage but other bits that don't fit with your argument?

 

[Millwallsteve]

so they were made up tories in the pro brexit press over the weekend . How come you believe some coverage but other bits that don't fit with your argument?

Pot and kettle time again I see.

 

[TC (Lovely Geezer)]

so they were made up tories in the pro brexit press over the weekend . How come you believe some coverage but other bits that don't fit with your argument?

Show me the press clips that state finance houses were moving from Paris and Frankfurt - move to the point, where did it say they were moving too?
Even more importantly - what the fcuk has that got to do with Brexit?

 

[Eireleeds1]

Why are you only doubling what norway pays? How many times bigger is our economy than theirs?
You do realise that any deal will have punitive measures in it. Contrary to myth we need them every bit as much as they need us. The german car market will survive without us.. But ours wont survive without them...


In any case...
You have no idea what the terms of a trade deal will be....You are making it up

You are accusing TC of making stuff up. Shame on you thinking TC is capable of such a thing

 

[Chippy / Glory]

Show me the press clips that state finance houses were moving from Paris and Frankfurt - move to the point, where did it say they were moving too?
Even more importantly - what the fcuk has that got to do with Brexit?

Meant to say moving to Paris and Frankfurt from here...... Didn't read it myself but heard it been discussed in a review of the papers on the radio.
That's why I asked a question and didn't make a statement.

Seems to have some arms and legs... Here is an article from todays inde.

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/b...-france-exodus-french-regulator-a7462731.html

 

[Chippy / Glory]

You are accusing TC of making stuff up. Shame on you thinking TC is capable of such a thing

Its not his fault that he has been brainwashed.. But he shouldn't be trying to brainwash others when he aint got a clue if what he is regurgitating is accurate.

Semi literate types and other assorted idiots are stupid enough to believe him....
In 2008 he would have told us that he and his mates in the city were trustworthy!

 

[OLOF]

Thought it would be some nebulous bollox like that

I read that already but ignored it as its no tangible use, leaving aside it's not true in practice. As a little country going cap in hand to various large trading blocs/countries we will have to agree to do what we are told - that's what we mean by 'we've got our country back' I guess

You've got little man syndrome

 

[Chippy / Glory]

You've got little man syndrome

and you have slaphead denial complex.

 

[OLOF]

and you have slaphead denial complex.

When I get as bald as you I will

 

[Chippy / Glory]

When I get as bald as you I will

Denial was the key word.
Let it go... Stop combing it over and accept the ageing process you vain twat!

 

[TC (Lovely Geezer)]

Meant to say moving to Paris and Frankfurt from here...... Didn't read it myself but heard it been discussed in a review of the papers on the radio.
That's why I asked a question and didn't make a statement.

Seems to have some arms and legs... Here is an article from todays inde.

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/b...-france-exodus-french-regulator-a7462731.html

According t a French regulator - How deep is this barrel you are scraping?

 

[TC (Lovely Geezer)]

Its not his fault that he has been brainwashed.. But he shouldn't be trying to brainwash others when he aint got a clue if what he is regurgitating is accurate.

Semi literate types and other assorted idiots are stupid enough to believe him....
In 2008 he would have told us that he and his mates in the city were trustworthy!

What have I said that is not accurate pray tell?
Or a you referring to Eire's point about Ireland's growing economy (1 year only) because Google and Starbucks are using it as a tax haven?

 

[TC (Lovely Geezer)]

Dates for the diary!!
15 March 2017: Dutch elections. The Freedom party of rightwing populist and anti-immigration campaigner Geert Wilders,is way ahead in the polls. Wilders, who attended the Republican party convention earlier this year, has imitated the Leave campaign in the UK referendum, saying Dutch voters must “take back their country” on election day.

23 April/7 May 2017: French presidential elections. The first round of voting will be on 23 April and the leader of the anti-EU Front National Marine Le Pen is widely expected to progress to the decisive runoff. Then she is most likely to face veteran centrist Alain Juppé, a former prime minister, in the decisive vote on May 7. Le Pen is now odds on favourite in a country that remains broadly pro-EU, but there is nervousness that a shock is now impossible.

September or October 2017: German elections. Germany is the least likely country to see a populist leader. However if the euro-sceptic (by German standards) Alternative für Deutschland, led by Frauke Petry, right, beat their current poll ratings, which are in the high teens, by a big margin that in itself would constitute a shock. Angela Merkel has announced that she will stand again but her CDU/CSU is only marginally ahead, and is constantly damaged by her approach to migration and the thousands of crimes these immigrants commit on a daily basis.

I wonder what the odds are of at least one of these leading to a referendum with a result like ours - I will stick my neck out and predict that at least 2 of them will, and they will be closely followed by Italy