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Discussion in 'Sunderland' started by Teessidemackem, Dec 10, 2014.

  1. DAPARKERSAFC

    DAPARKERSAFC Well-Known Member

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    If Bruce takes Hull down id have Curtis Davies in the summer, maybe even Dawson if they were silly about Davies fee.
     
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  2. DAPARKERSAFC

    DAPARKERSAFC Well-Known Member

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    How odd. Just logged onto twitter and the echo are running with a story linking us with Curtis Davies for £6m
     
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  3. clockstander

    clockstander Well-Known Member

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    Seriously <laugh><laugh>
     
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  4. Brian Storm

    Brian Storm Well-Known Member

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    Consensus with the Hull fans is that he's been very poor this season.
     
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  5. mackemwelder

    mackemwelder Well-Known Member

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    Aye me too mate, I've said all season that when we get Giacci back it will be like having a new signing, Alvares match fit will be another bonus and I'm looking forward to see if Gus will link them up. I hope so, the mags might be a bit too soon for Giacci though.
     
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  6. John Cardew

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    FIFA 14 levels of football knowledge here ^^^
     
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  7. Sidthemackem

    Sidthemackem Newcastle United 0-1 Cambridge United
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    Worked with Dion Dublin...?

    Mind you, he was probably a bit bright than Dozy, come to think about it.
     
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  8. Big Bad Wesley Brown

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    He struggled mate but so did the rest of the defence... He's been pretty solid most of the other times I've watched United. Very calm on the ball for a teenager.
     
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  9. password invalid

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    And Kenny Burns
     
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  10. password invalid

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    and kenny burns
     
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  11. Blunham Mackem

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    If we've got 2 pennies to rub together come January they should go towards a striker! That has to be our priority.
     
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  12. C19RK73

    C19RK73 Red & White army!

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    i'm gonna choose to read between the lines on this one, missed out on williams by going public, keeping cards close to chest, my money says we'll bring in a CB, maybe release coates and bring in another loanee aswel
     
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  13. Rick O'Shea

    Rick O'Shea Well-Known Member

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    All about Fifa 15. Although his defensive stats are bad too. Hes a flop, put it this way, couldnt do any worse. Besides, The number of cb who get converted to CFS and vice versa is probably higher than you expect. Ha
     
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  14. Teessidemackem

    Teessidemackem Well-Known Member

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  15. Brian Storm

    Brian Storm Well-Known Member

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    Don't want Davies, he's ****e. Hull fans wouldn't have a bad word to say about him last season, they'd be over here defending him honor. Now you struggle to find a Hull fans who's happy with him.
     
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  16. Tel (they/them)

    Tel (they/them) Sucky’s Bailiff

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    Was going to say this.

    The guy's choking as per his script, because they're no longer on the crest of a wave, the wheels have come off and he's not standing up, like a true leader.

    Bang average defender who looks like he hasn't recovered from Hull's collapse in the FA Cup Final.
     
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  17. Rick O'Shea

    Rick O'Shea Well-Known Member

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    They're a queer bunch feeling the need to go around to defend the tigers against anyone who should besmirch their good name and anyone affiliated with them
     
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  18. Brian Storm

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    I post a lot over there fella. They're all right, think some may have found some humility giving everything went wrong and finished below us. Some are still up themselves, some just can't accept personal opinion. Funny board though, they may have laid off on visitors to their board but still rip chunks out of each other all day. Not firm fierce debate though, they call each other names and bully each other if they don't agree. This CTWD stuff combined with a few starting to question Bruce and that's it, they're all vile to each other. <laugh>
     
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  19. Teessidemackem

    Teessidemackem Well-Known Member

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    ONE OF the leading contenders for strangest transfer rumour of the summer was Spurs reportedly preparing a £3million move for John O&#8217;Shea.Now, O&#8217;Shea emphatically proved earlier in his career his pedigree in the higher echelons of the Premier League.

    But £3m? For a 33-year-old? A defender in a side who had looked doomed all season and one who had less than 12 months on his contract?

    It had more than a whiff of O&#8217;Shea&#8217;s agent looking to sow the seeds of doubt to prompt Sunderland into offering the Republic of Ireland international a new deal.

    In that regard, it was mission accomplished!

    But given O&#8217;Shea&#8217;s form this season and Tottenham&#8217;s struggles, perhaps it wasn&#8217;t so far-fetched after all.

    O&#8217;Shea is playing the best football of his Sunderland career.

    He&#8217;s the anchor to a Black Cats defence that, aside from the Southampton shambles, has been generally excellent this season.

    While Sunderland have shown little inclination to be particularly expansive, Gus Poyet&#8217;s side are playing to their strengths and that&#8217;s why they&#8217;ve been so resilient, despite their problems at the other end of the field.

    But despite clean sheets in a third of Sunderland&#8217;s Premier League outings this season, there still has to be real concern over the long-term status of the club&#8217;s back-line.

    The average age of Poyet&#8217;s defence at Liverpool last weekend was 32-and-a-quarter.

    Now, experience habitually goes hand-hand with successful defending, and the likes of O&#8217;Shea and Wes Brown are two of the foundations of the Sunderland dressing room.

    But the ageing nature of the current back-line has to be a worry, albeit not necessarily in the upcoming weeks and months.

    Brown was back to his best in the goalless draw at Anfield, while Reveillere has been an unbelievable find on the Bosman market.

    Patrick van Aanholt could do a lot worse than keeping his eyes glued to the ex-France international while he is sidelined.

    But will Brown or Reveillere be here beyond the end of their contracts next summer?

    With the pair both turning 35, there have to be major question marks.

    At best, they&#8217;re only going to get 12-month extensions.

    They may not be the only defensive departures at the end of the campaign either.

    Sebastian Coates&#8217; lack of first-team football over the last two years has hampered his two appearances for Sunderland, but there has been little so far to justify a permanent move at the end of his loan deal from Liverpool.

    Santiago Vergini&#8217;s loan spell has been far more successful, with the Argentine a cult hero in the making on the terraces.

    But his parent club, Costa Rican side Club Sport Uruguay de Coronado, were looking for a fee in excess of £4m for Vergini last summer.

    What will the price be at the end of his loan after he has played regularly for Sunderland and got back into the Argentina squad?

    Looking further ahead, how much is O&#8217;Shea going to be playing in the final 12 months of his two-year contract extension either?

    By then, he&#8217;ll be 35.

    Sunderland are not ignorant of their ageing defence.

    One of their first ventures in the transfer market last summer was to submit a bid or two for Swansea&#8217;s Ashley Williams when there were doubts over whether he&#8217;d sign a new deal at the Liberty Stadium.

    Although Sunderland were rebuffed in that avenue, they turned their attentions to Virgil van Dijk at Celtic. Poyet had been keeping tabs on the Dutchman ever since he was in charge at Brighton.

    But with Celtic looking for a fee around the £10m mark, for a player who has been extensively scouted by a host of Premier League sides, Poyet was wary of splashing out such a hefty sum on a defender untested in the English game.

    Rumours yesterday linked Sunderland with Hull&#8217;s Curtis Davies, while the Black Cats will surely revive their interest in van Dijk during the summer.

    There won&#8217;t necessarily be a move for a fresh centre-half in January.

    Next month, Sunderland&#8217;s focus will be on boosting their goal threat to bring an end to the constant cycle of draws.

    But, after the milestone of tying down Connor Wickham to a new contract earlier this week, injecting some younger blood into that back line now has to come onto Lee Congerton&#8217;s radar as a priority.

    The defence has been Sunderland&#8217;s great strength this season.

    It needs to remain like that when the veterans hang up their boots.
     
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  20. Nostalgic

    Nostalgic Well-Known Member

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    I get a feeling that JOS got his contract on the agreement he may stay with the club as defensive coach. Was a great servant to ManU as a utility defender and now us at centre half, wealth of experience and wisdom to pass on.
     
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