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No Handshakes!

Discussion in 'Liverpool' started by pass&move, Apr 26, 2012.

  1. Swarbs

    Swarbs Well-Known Member
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    Not sure how it protects him - if anything it sticks the attention all back on him. Everyone knew Anton wasn't going to shake his hand, so the whole thing was a non story. By cancelling the handshake it's been made into more of a story - it's front page on the BBC PL page.

    As for the comparison with Suarez, the PL might have cancelled the handshake had they known he wasn't going to shake Evra's hand. By claiming he was going to shake, Suarez made sure there was no reason to cancel it. Not sure what else the PL could've done in that situation.
     
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  2. Blueman

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    Erm, I believe he's doing that in court. And have you asked Otman Bakkal?
     
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  3. suarezlfc

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    What, clearing his name as soon as the allegation is made? Yeah, because the allegation was (is going to be) made in summer 2012 wasn't (isn't) it?
     
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  4. Yurilly

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    How do you want him to go about clearing his name when any allegation thus far is unproven, whilst there is an ongoing legal case and things to influence any judiciary decision are outlawed?
     
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  5. Blueman

    Blueman Well-Known Member

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    No answer as yet i see Yurilly.
     
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  6. ITS_NOT_JUST_A_GAME

    ITS_NOT_JUST_A_GAME Active Member

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    The only player found guilty so far is a Lfc player, so at the moment Lfc fans can huff and puff as much as they like but it will not change much.
    At this moment:
    EPL= ?
    FAC= ?
    ECL= ?
    Milk cup= Lfc
    Banned racist player= LFc
     
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  7. Page_Moss_Kopite

    Page_Moss_Kopite Well-Known Member

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    Bit stale,it now goes by the same name as it did two seasons ago when you won it and **** all else.
     
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  8. UIR - Kagawa Powa

    UIR - Kagawa Powa New Member

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    Hahahahahahahahahahahaha.

    Are you serious. Go read up about Mr Suarez and some of his antics in Holland. I beleive he Van Gough'd a guy....

    Pretty thuggish to me.
     
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  9. Foredeckdave

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    As a statement of fact, your listing is incorrect. Suarez was suspended, he was never banned. The kangaroo court that imposed the suspension began their judgement by stating that the did not believe that Suarez was a racist. Even the dissembler who brought the complaint stated in his written statement that he did not believe that Suarez was a racist. Hence only idiots like you can make such stupid non-substantiated comments.

    However, if we put the spotlight on the club that you claim to support then we do find a manager that has broken the rules of his own 'professional' association (twice) so far this season and endorses such paragons of ethical family values as Rooney and Giggs.
     
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  10. terrifictraore

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    Found guilty by what?
     
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  11. terrifictraore

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    What did he do, a quick sketch or a full impressionist watercolour?

    Sounds rather creative to me.
     
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  12. DirtyFrank

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    I do love how in the same thread opposition fans say Gerrard "got away with it" when found not guilty by a court of law but Suarez is "guilty" of a criminal offence having never seen the inside of an English courtroom. Make up your minds!

    But..I do however agree with Swarbs (cough splutter) can't compare the two handshake incidents as Ferdinand has made his refusal clear well before hand so gave the authorities the chance to cancel. Suarez stupidly did not. On the other hand Suarez having lost the PR battle already would have been crucified by the media anyway if he had refused in the lead up to the match but at least wouldn't have Made a fool of his manager.

    I'll wait & see what the court of law decides about Terry as this is his & anybody else's right in a liberal democracy. As opposed to a trial by media or pseudo legal hearing.
     
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  13. UIR - Kagawa Powa

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    Woops, slight error. More along the lines of Mike Tyson. Thought he'd gone for the ear but he jus took a bit around the neck.
     
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  14. saintanton

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    Keep up. I've already answered that one.
     
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  15. suarezlfc

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    The fact that Terry's is an official legal case works to his advantage.

    1) The papers can't say much about it until the verdict is given.
    2) Offers the possibility (in this case, a reality) of the case being postponed until a later, off-season, date.
    3) As far as I'm aware, he's only due a small fine (compared to his wages) should he be found guilty.
    4) The FA (who issued Suarez's ban), knowing them, will most probably claim 'it's been dealt with' and leave it at that. No ban from the game.
    5) As this thread states, the cancelling of handshakes can be written down as not wishing to effect the case.

    It's strange that a case with (seemingly) hard evidence which is brought in front of the courts offers a lighter punishment than one with zero hard evidence that is brought in front of a panel assembled by a governing body, with no legal ties whatsoever.

    P.S: I like how 'found guilty on the balance of probability' by a panel with no legal experience or ties is synonymous with 'proven guilty' for some people in this thread. What it boils down to, whether or not he is 'guilty' and regardless of your opinion, is one man's word against anothers. That would never stand in court.
     
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  16. Queenslander!!

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    Think you may ned to re-think that one a bit mate...
    If terry is found guilty of racially abusing our captain, i'd say the we've pretty much ended his career.
    No chance of ever captiainig England again and prob not playing again.
    Makes the "kick it out" campaign a joke.
    I dont reckon his team mates will go to easy on him either. Ever wondered why so many have wanted out this season, and whatthey have in common.

    personally i hope Jt never plays again and we stuff them this weekend, but thats just me wishing..

    Not getting drawn into the Saurez agrument...so good luck for the rest of the season guys. I'm hoping we're gonna be playing you again next year at loftus Rd. We do need the points !!lol.
     
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  17. Page_Moss_Kopite

    Page_Moss_Kopite Well-Known Member

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    If hes found guilty he'll laugh his bollocks off as he pays his 2k fine and retires from football,therefore dodging any ban and/or fine from the FA.

    All this and hes also been given permission to finish the season with Chelsea,possibly lift the CL trophy and play for England in the Euros.

    Talk about the tail wagging the dog.

    <laugh>
     
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  18. Queenslander!!

    Queenslander!! Well-Known Member

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    Agreed, but in 3 years time he'll be caught up in some "dogging" incident in a local car park, whilst selling Coke....Its all about the bigger picture

    good luck
     
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  19. Page_Moss_Kopite

    Page_Moss_Kopite Well-Known Member

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    Ditto.

    <ok>
     
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  20. suarezlfc

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    Well, I was basing it mainly on his treatment in the media. The rest was just hypothetical.
    If Suarez is still playing, having been 'found' guilty, then surely the same will happen with Terry?
     
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