I suppose a few unsurprisingly might but at least now we know they did make that gap. Can you honestly say you see this current side opening out a gap to the likes of Chelsea? At best it's debatable. Don't get me wrong. I would love them to but for every step forwards that they make, they make another backwards. It's the seeming inability to capitalise on the misfortunes of our rivals, the inability to graft out those three points when needed or prevent being swamped that is hugely agonizing. I hope there will be changes on the horizon but it's hard holding one's breath.
If you don't have enough faith in your team to perform well, then you shouldn't be complaining if they don't perform well
****ing hell, mate. If I keep reading your posts since you came back, I am going to cut my wrist anytime soon. We are a POINT behind Chelsea in fourth, in the last 16 of the CL,our best midfield player will be back and the best RB in the league is close to a return for us.
What sort of response is that? I'm complaining they're not performing well because they aren't. Perhaps you think 4 points against the three teams we just played is wonderful.
**** happens. Did we expect Nasri to be the greedy so and so he was in the end? Nope. Could we have done anything to stop Fabregas moving to Barcelona? We did something the season before but it was hard to expect us to keep him again when the player himself had given up on us. Then you have the injury to Wilshere. The man that was meant to take control of midfield not playing a single game this season after picking up an injury playing for England. Scary thing is, before the Fulham game we actually had the same points as we did in the same stage the season before. Also this season we came first in the group stages of the CL compared to the one before. City have improved and so they should with that amount of money. They got more points then our 03/04 side in the same stage of the season. Spurs being above us is the only thing that is hurting me right now. That club should not be performing better then us if you look at the bare figures but Levy has done amazing business in the summer. I mean getting City to pay more then 50% of his star forwards wages. Wow. Also he kept Modric in the face of unreal pressure from Chelsea. Credit to them for that. But what happened has happened and now we have the rest of the season to save it and look forward to it. You support a team to enjoy watching them play and enjoy that ride. Not to mention supporting them until the bitter end. We are point off the top four and have AC Milan coming to town. I can't ****ing wait.
The thing I don't like to see is people slating Wenger and the club for things after they have happened, which they had no control over and then claim that they should have prevented it. That's a cheap shot in my opinion. As Super Jack says '**** Happens'. We can't predict injuries, we couldn't predict that Nasri was going to be a money grabbing ****, we couldn't predict that Red Bulls would hold up the paperwork for Henry, the list goes on. Yet some people seem to have a knee jerk reaction to simply blaming Arsenal, it's lazy and not very well thought out. There's usually a bigger picture, it's just that some people choose to ignore it, because it doesn't suit their blame agenda.
Piskie if you think the numerous events of the last - say 7 years were not avoidable, and this club's decline and loss of top class players, coupled with playing staff weakness running into successive seasons is all bad luck - then you are welcome to that view. Me? I think we brought lots of it on ourselves. So - I blame the Manager and Board. We had a manager perhaps only second best to SAF, who is now likely to leave a sad end-of-reign behind him.
More importantly, and I've just touched on this in another thread, everything Arsenal do is private so no-one outside the deepest of inner circles knows the truth, it's easy to criticise we all do it, but doing it without anywhere near the full facts is dangerous. Most people jumped on AW for failing to land anyone before deadline day in August but it was weeks later we found out about record bids for M'Vila and Mata being rejected. Reading some of the comments in here reminds me of the wife, why look for positives when it's easier to whinge about life ?
I hear what you're saying fella. I just don't think some of the events are as clear cut as some people would like to believe.
reminds me of the wife, why look for positives when it's easier to whinge about life ? I think you should ask yourself if she is getting what she needs out of life, and with you.
There is no blame agenda here Piskie. There is just blame. While one appreciates what Super Jack says about things happening that is beyond one's control, there are aspects of management and team performance that are well within the scope of influence of the manager and board. I think it was pretty much on the cards that Nasri was going to leave. However we had an Arsene Wenger who believed in his own abilities of persuasion and at one stage was willing to hang on to the player who would then leave ' on a free ' at the end of the season. This of course was vetoed by the board and Arsene then had to back down. Given that Nasri had been underperforming for the greater part of the second half of the season with in reality only one half of a season largely to show for all of his time with us, Wenger could have arranged for a sale while looking for a suitable replacement early in the off season. I appreciate folk of a certain persuasion will say that some of the players we would have liked were never available anyway ( funny how it is that Gazidis said that ) but while we may have placed a bid for Mata, were we serious about paying him the salary he wanted? Might we indeed have gotten him after all if we had done the deal early? Yes we don't know all of that which went on. None of us do, not even you so the debate raised by both sides here is completely valid. Our lethargic decision-making has been discussed on the air waves before and much then was made on our slowness in acquiring other players. It isn't all roses at the Emirates. If it were we would be in a far better position than we are today which is why some of us are questioning the performance of our manager and board. Seems to me, a fair point to make just as yours is as valid too. However you do not always or have a right to bring a discussion to a close by having the last say since there is no last say here. At least not until all the facts become known.
No they weren't !! In any case the players at Arsenal that are criticised have mostly been given enough chances to prove themselves and they haven't. In Vieira's first few games he made a massive difference to us, Bergkamp didn't take years to show his quality and Adams I cannot remember anyone being negative toward him after a couple of years, he was a regular for Arsenal aged 19 back in the old days when footballers were not pansies !!
This has to be the stupidest post I have seen on this thread. It doesn't even deserve a response, but I will humour you. So what you are saying is, even though we know our team is poor and won't do well, we can't complain WHEN they don't do well ?
WE had the best RB in the league when we had the worst start in 58 years. Wilshere will take the place of Ramsey, but I don't see that as much of a solution to our problems of not being able to defend for toffee and having inconsistent forwards/wingers who can't cross or finish.
