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Nigel's Meeting with Ehaw

Discussion in 'Hull City' started by 785mae, Apr 15, 2018.

  1. Top_Tiger

    Top_Tiger Well-Known Member

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    What a load of rubbish. Our most successful manager who had sucured Premier League football again with a couple of signings and maybe a spend of 30 million would have kept us up. 30 million is nothing in that league to secure nearly 100 million in money. All his excessive spending had been recuped anyway.
     
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  3. GEvans76

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    I've no idea what budget we will have but a good chunk of it should go on offering Abel a good contract with a release clause.
    Hes a 20+ striker in this league and they cost 10m +
    Or at least ****ing try.
     
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    I never took Bruce for granted and once he left I know why its being down hill ever since.
     
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  5. Newland Tiger

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    Did charon mention Alex Bruce ? He's responsible for everything bad that has ever happened to our club
     
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  6. Dr.Stanley O'Google, HCFC

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    Thwarted by the FA over the name change; thwarted by HCC over their attempt to obtain the stadium for peanuts - the Allams decide on a Plan B: to sell the club to a big bidder, and so recover their money.

    For whatever reason they failed to sell Hull City.

    Ehab (who thinks he's a business genius, but on the contrary inherited 'his' wealth due to his father's financial ability), feels he can both get the family's money back from Parachute payments and player sales, leaving the Club in similar straits to where it was when they 'saved' it.

    Spiteful toe-rag...
     
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  7. originallambrettaman

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    Maguire's initial fee was £12m, even if the whole thing was put through last years accounts, it's still over £25m (Both Maguire's and Robertson's add-ons will have been triggered now).
     
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  8. Chazz Rheinhold

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    By investing you mean either extending the debt or remaining 60 or 70 million in debt. For all the Allam hate I can't see why this isn't reasonable. They're getting their money back. They bankrolled it and want it back.
    It's not their personal benefit it's what they are owed. Why should they invest in all that. It will hardly drive the price up and with no guarantee why do it. Doesn't make business sense.

    Posters seem to want the Allams to buy or co work with the council for the stadium. Spend millions of their own money. Build a twenty million state of the art training academy out of their own money. And then. Invest heavily in the team out of their own money.
    All in the hope of getting promoted, like 23 other clubs. No risk there then.
    Crazy but I just can't see why they won't.
     
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  9. Chazz Rheinhold

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    I particularly like the "****ed up the cup final" I mean we were only playing Arsenal with a team of journeymen and for the most part championship level players. Disgusting he couldn't beat Arsenal.
    We were odds on favourite I expect.
     
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  10. originallambrettaman

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    By investing, I mean using some of the massive income received to fund a competitive team, with a view to getting promoted (from a weak Championship) and getting back the massive income that the Premier League provides, rather than just pocketing the cash immediately.

    They was absolutely no need to increase debt, it just required them to repay the existing debt over a slightly longer period.

    I'd have been more than happy for them to take all their money back, just as long as they ****ed off, but sadly they're taking it back without ****ing off.
     
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  11. Chazz Rheinhold

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    You make it sound so easy getting promoted. Derby have splashed the cash every season with no reward. The weak championship with probably the best team there has been in it at this level!!!
    Boro spent how much on 2 or 3 forwards???
    And what if they'd spent it and not got promoted? How do they get their money back? Just one more go? So another thirty million? Like ****.

    They're getting off the merry go round and getting their money back. Surely you want them to go asap not get paid back over a slightly longer period??

    If they go and the club are still in the championship with no debt then it's as good as it gets.
    Then the next mug can have a go
     
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    Spending money in itself obviously doesn't guarantee success, but this season has been the poorest football I've seen in a Championship season.

    I do want them to go as soon as possible, but the problem is them taking their money back and still not ****ing off.
     
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  13. City1904

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    It doesn't guarantee it but investing 10m more than we did certainly would have given us a better chance.....

    It's logical of course it is. It won't make it guaranteed but you can't guarantee anything in life.

    Same as Chazz is refuting investing into your business won't increase the value and won't bring long term gains. Will it guarantee them? No but investing in any business won't guarantee returns. But thousands of people do it year in year out and get a great return.

    I've not once asked them to spend their own money, I want them to invest the money they have spent better, clubs have done that look at Burnley as an example and other clubs.

    Our transfer policy has been terrible for years. We wait until deadline day and sign misfits, sometimes we have got lucky (Harry Wilson), time and time again we have not. When Bruce was here we had a great manager who knew how to spend well.

    I don't get what you disagree with Chazz. I am saying we should live within our means, but we should have spent more last summer and this year and invest in players to give us a chance of going up. Imagine if they had spent 20m more last year.... it could have gained them an extra 100m. It wouldn't have increased our debt it would have just meant the debt as much.
     
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    Pftt this wolves team are nothing on the reading
     
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  15. Chazz Rheinhold

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    It might. They don't want to take that risk. They're leaving the casino and over 7 years they and we have had a good run. When they get what they're owed they'll go.
    Let's see how easy it is with just a bit of investment eh.
     
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  16. Chazz Rheinhold

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    There are eight teams in the second tier with parachute payments: Cardiff, Hull, Middlesbrough, QPR, Fulham, Villa, Sunderland and Norwich.
    They should have all spent a little bit. More.

    Add in teams such as Wolves, Reading, Derby or Sheffield Wednesday – with rich owners who are willing to bankroll their clubs.
     
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  17. Fez

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    The Allams neither understand or like football, so to expect their actions to depend on that is a little odd.

    They neither understand nor like the support, so to expect their actions to be deliberately beneficial to that support is a little odd.

    They said the club would be run for the benefit of the shareholders and that is what they are doing - they are now risk averse and recouping their investment, along with whatever else they can get from what will be the bones of our club.

    They like playing games, they’re quite good at them, ballots are a favourite; some have underestimated them in that.

    They find dialogue a useful distraction technique. It’s good to talk, or maybe not...
     
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  18. Real ale tiger

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    Actually.if the manager gets the players together for a pre-season training camp it would improve our chances.i don't blame the owners for not investing.but it appears to me that they are in the process of scuttling the club. Once that is achieved they will be gone.
     
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  19. originallambrettaman

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    They only reason they haven’t completely done their bollocks on the whole thing, is that promotions saved them, you’d think they might have learned from that.

    Though I never expected them to invest this season, I just prayed they’d **** off and let someone else have a go.
     
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    And some massively overestimate them.

    I reckon they’ve lost more memberships as a consequence of their dodgy ballot, than they would have done if they refused to meet or do anything.
     
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