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Nigel Pearson: Did he see it coming first?

Discussion in 'Hull City' started by tigercity, May 29, 2012.

  1. Stuart Blampey

    Stuart Blampey Well-Known Member

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    Maybe they ought to dedicate their energies to reducing the biggest bills rather than focussing on the easy multitude of lower bills?

    Sorry for repeating myself...

    Ask some players to consider a lump sum pay off on their contract for example
     
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  2. Stuart Blampey

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    See my original point.

    I don't know what they have tried or not tried.


    One big saving could be bigger than 500 smaller petty and obstructive ones.

    More money saved, less antagonism created.
     
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  3. juleskaren

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    The care you received at CHH was very good I am sure of that but sports injuries are different. I don't think you will find many really top class sports injury people in Hull. I am involved in Athletics and even at quite a low level our athletes go out of town to get their injuries treated in a lot of cases. I know someone who regularly travels to Leeds, OK not London but you get my drift.
     
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  4. Carmine Galante.

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    I have it on good authority Man Utd are tight as arseholes when it comes to players wanting shirts, balls or whatever signing for personal reasons. This would include friends and relatives birthdays for example and this ruling extends to the most senior of players.

    I also have it on good authority that if a senior player approached them stating he had been politely asked if they could provide a couple of signed balls and a shirt for a very worthwhile charity they would push the boat out.

    A bit of simple common sense and decency should sometimes be applied to business sense.


    IMO.
     
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  5. juleskaren

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    A good common sense approach, good post.
     
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  6. originallambrettaman

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    Who the **** said anything about one player in a Lear Jet?

    I'm talking about the whole team spending five hours on a coach, when they could have taken a flight for less then an hour. South coast night matches, particularly when we had a game on Saturday, you think that's good management? Completely false economy, irritate the players, make them knackered and all to save half of McShane's wages for a week.

    It only applies to three or four games a season max, the saving is peanuts, I don't really think it's the end of the world either way, I just think it's poor management.

    As is doubling the prices for disabled supports, how many have we got, 10, 20, how much extra revenue does the increase generate £4k, £5k, is that worth the bad PR?

    We seem to be skimping on things that save the club almost nothing, alienating fans and players, while simultaneously announcing that we'd merrily pay £30-40k a week wages for a striker.

    Does that add up to you? It makes **** all sense to me.
     
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  7. originallambrettaman

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    We're charging our own scouts, not other clubs ffs.

    Our local scouts used to get free tickets, they no longer do, the players can no longer request free tickets either, despite us having 6,000 empty seats.

    What's the point? If the ground was full, then fair enough, but why refuse free tickets for our scouts and players when the bloody things are being wasted?
     
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  8. doveston

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    man u **** goes for a few quid on ebay where as citys.........
     
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  9. PLT

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    I'm not saying we should go buy a load more Bullard and Ghilas types, I'm saying we should probably stick to what every other club does rather than pissing everyone off by breaching football etiquette. There isn't a good reason why scouts shouldn't have to pay, but if we charge one scout who would previously get in free that saves us the price of a ticket (actually it's an otherwise empty seat so it saves us nothing) but that means every single game we want a scout to go he ends up having to pay becaquse we've pissed the club off, meaning we have to pay the price of a ticket for every game scouted. It doesn't take a mathematician to see that that will cost us far more than it saves.

    Equally, if by sending Hobbs to a lesser surgeon just because he is local for treatment to what is an incredibly serious injury, it could cause setbacks or even end his career. That would waste a whole lot of wages which would far exceed the small change it costs to do these little things.

    The problem with finances in English football is in players' wages and spending based on the 'hope' of future success rather than expectation, it's nothing to do with these tiny amounts that the Allams are so obsessed with, and which probably cost us more in the long-term.

    Yes they definitely should. So they shouldn't start blaming others and kicking off when deals go wrong like the Adebola one was reported to do. How can they not know that they are signing a deal which costs us way more than it is supposed to do? And how is it anyone else's fault?

    I just find the things they say and do to be quite unbelievable at times and even though they have this businessmen image, they don't even seem to have much common sense in that department when they do things like this. Or being oblivious to paying Maguire's wife a **** load of money, or telling him not to do that 'Winter Wonderland' thing and not having the authority to actually stop him. They're meant to be in charge but it seems like they only take control over stupid little things and when it's something where a bit of leadership is required they leave it be and then moan afterwards.

    I really hope this summer comes good and they pull a rabbit out of a hat, but they just seem bonkers and clueless to me.

    That's ridiculous. It's a completely separate issue to heart surgery we're talking intricate structures of the knee ligaments. A hell of a lot of players go to that Steadman fella in America for knee injuries and there are always going to be specialists in certain places who are better than others. If we want Hobbs to return to full fitness the player he was before his injury we need to get him the best treatment possible, not just the cheapest.
     
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  10. andy payton's mullet

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    Without wishing to fuel the flames, wasn't it reported that hobbs was making a miraculous recovery?
     
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  11. originallambrettaman

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    What insurance?

    That went just after we'd removed 50% of the bulbs in the ticket office and sacked the Saturday girl in the club shop.

    Waste not, want not...
     
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  12. I used to be john fallen

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    Congratulations ! this an auspicious occasion...The 27,000th thread about nigel pearson..lets break out the champers...<laugh> one day you will move on, I just know it ..
     
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  13. originallambrettaman

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    He is apparently doing very well and his return is ahead of schedule.

    And joking apart, I think Assem was talked out of the whole Castle Hill thing and he did end up going to a London specialist.
     
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  14. originallambrettaman

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    27,000 threads would be impressive, particularly compared to the paltry 2,347 you lot have managed.
     
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  15. TONY_WARNERS_FACE.

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    Most clubs don't have insurance according to my mate Paul.
     
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  16. StrovolosTiger

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    Speaking of moving on, have you any idea how many more of our squad your manager ig going to try and sign for Leicesteristan?

    Doesn't get the message very well does he?
     
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  17. andy payton's mullet

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    She deserved it. She told the media she wasn't given till rolls when she actually was <whistle>

    Cheers for that. Good news
     
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    sounds like someone hoping your version is true :/
     
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  19. PLT

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    I'm pretty sure I heard someone (maybe PB) say with regard to the Bullard saga that footballers aren't actually insured and it's something made up by fans. If he wasn't a lesser surgeon we wouldn't be talking about it. The whole point is that they refused to send him to the surgeon he needed to see because it would have cost them too much.

    You've completely missed my point there. The very thing I was saying was that massive wages and 'hopeful' spending are
    the problem with English football finances, but that it's a totally separate issue to the penny pinching. I'd like to ask you though, do you believe what the Allams said about wanting to spend £30-40k a week on a striker to get us promoted? If you do, how does that fit in with your not wanting them to spend silly wages?

    Of course not, but it's such a massive difference to knee surgery I can't believe we're even comparing the two. I'm no anatomist but I know the heart is full of tiny arteries, veins, chambers and valves, it doesn't have connective tissues like ligaments which are in the knee and are what Hobbs has injured. I daresay the heart surgeon who sorted you out wouldn't be able to fix a footballer's knee and vise versa.
     
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  20. TONY_WARNERS_FACE.

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    Yes.

    He wouldn't lie. He never has once, and I've no reason to believe he has here.
     
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