1. Log in now to remove adverts - no adverts at all to registered members!

Niall Quinn. CEO

Discussion in 'Sunderland' started by Commachio, Mar 13, 2016.

  1. Reggie the Cheddar

    Reggie the Cheddar Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jan 25, 2011
    Messages:
    2,598
    Likes Received:
    3,516
    Would love to see him given a role just maybe not ceo
     
    #21
  2. C19RK73

    C19RK73 Red & White army!

    Joined:
    Jul 26, 2012
    Messages:
    38,491
    Likes Received:
    14,967
  3. Blunham Mackem

    Blunham Mackem Well-Known Member Forum Moderator

    Joined:
    Jan 28, 2011
    Messages:
    10,790
    Likes Received:
    4,922
    I don't see why. He was here, did a great job on the pitch with SKP. And brought in Drummaville. Job done.

    That was many yesterday's ago.

    For gods sake move on.
     
    #23
    Brian Storm and Billy Death like this.
  4. Lostinvegas

    Lostinvegas Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jan 25, 2011
    Messages:
    4,031
    Likes Received:
    782
    No from me. I have heard the real reasons he left and to be honest we're better off without him. Great player, he did well to bring Drumaville in he is not here now for a reason and I can't see him coming back while Short is still the owner unless a lot has changed.
     
    #24
    Brian Storm likes this.
  5. FTM Dave

    FTM Dave Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jan 26, 2011
    Messages:
    1,222
    Likes Received:
    1,431
    Intriguing Vegas. Care to go into more detail?

    Always a big gossip me!
     
    #25
  6. Reggie the Cheddar

    Reggie the Cheddar Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jan 25, 2011
    Messages:
    2,598
    Likes Received:
    3,516
    Well I think everyone in here would agree our clubs pr is **** so why not have him in a fans relations capacity I don't see the harm.

    Also 1973 was many yesterdays ago let's move on from that too then, because history and legacy means nowt at a club like ours with such a successful present.....
     
    #26

  7. Yorkie

    Yorkie Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    May 12, 2014
    Messages:
    1,176
    Likes Received:
    3,183
    well spill the beans then. As far as I' m concerned he's a club legend. No I don't think him being CEO now is a great move but an argument saying "i know something about him you don't" is no argument at all and some other poster calling him a tosspot is pathetic. there's reasoned argument on this thread but just slagging off someone who's done a huge amount for Sunderland I don't get.
     
    #27
  8. Blunham Mackem

    Blunham Mackem Well-Known Member Forum Moderator

    Joined:
    Jan 28, 2011
    Messages:
    10,790
    Likes Received:
    4,922
    There's no doubting our PR at the minute Giacc! You're absolutely spot on with that. It needs rebuilding. But not this season. That ship has sailed. The club needs to focus on the next 9 games. A CEO will have no influence on these games. It's all between Sam and the squad.

    I doubt Niall would come here just in some PR capacity, but fair do's, if he would, I'd welcome that massively.

    But what we were talking about is a new CEO. And Quinny's not the man.

    Not in today's game. A footballing businessman isn't enough to tick all the boxes.

    We may very well go down this season. This decision isn't a decision to be taken likely. It needs time and thought, not an emotional knee-jerk reaction.
     
    #28
  9. Brian Storm

    Brian Storm Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Dec 31, 2012
    Messages:
    48,871
    Likes Received:
    16,295
    There's knee jerk and there's handing all our rivals a head start on us in preparation. The new CEO has two separate budgets to prepare for next season. Every relegation battle requires double the preparation for the following season. One if we stay up and one if we go down. They need to be ready to execute the second our status is confirmed or we're playing catch up. It needs to be a swift but assured appointment imo.
     
    #29
  10. safcrocket

    safcrocket Active Member

    Joined:
    Oct 24, 2015
    Messages:
    174
    Likes Received:
    65


    But I don't think you're giving him the major credit he deserves.

    He brought the club when we were in quite a mess. Managed to seek investment from drumville, using the money to get us promoted.

    His choice of managers were also very good.

    Roy keane made an instant impact and took us straight up, and then went on to give us some stability in the premier league.

    Steve Bruce built the best side we've had since the Reid era.

    MON had a great initial impact, but fell apart, nevertheless a good appointment at the time.

    We signed, bent, malbranqe, gyan, sess in quinns time. Some big contracts were handed out to the wrong players, but he was doing that to try and get what he thought would be better players to the club.

    He managed to seek major investment from Short, and selling a football club is not easy (look at villa).

    Quinn took on a massive gamble when getting involved with safc, he brought a club in a mess playing championship football, and left it with a billionaire owner playing premiership football. That to me deserves enormous amounts of credit and respect.

    His other business ventures may have failed, but he will be learning all the time and I think he will get it right one day, because he is a successful man with a winning mentality.

    I think you should be giving him the amazing credit he deserves rather than writing him off.
     
    #30
    Nacho likes this.
  11. Blunham Mackem

    Blunham Mackem Well-Known Member Forum Moderator

    Joined:
    Jan 28, 2011
    Messages:
    10,790
    Likes Received:
    4,922
    Writing off isn't the term I'd use.

    He did what he did a decade ago Rocket. And he has our ever grateful thanks for what he did. But that was hen. The games moved on so much since then.

    This isn't the time for sentimentality.
     
    #31
  12. safcrocket

    safcrocket Active Member

    Joined:
    Oct 24, 2015
    Messages:
    174
    Likes Received:
    65
    The game has moved on so much in 4-5 years? In what way exactly?
     
    #32
  13. Brian Storm

    Brian Storm Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Dec 31, 2012
    Messages:
    48,871
    Likes Received:
    16,295

    Don't give a **** what you think I should be doing. Don't tell me who i should and shouldn't give credit to. That's for me to decide, not you! Give credit to whoever you want, I don't give a **** but don't be telling me who I should be grateful to. Knob

    He left us in a financial mess, we were in one when he came.

    Between him Bruce and Keane we signed an insane amount of players and at the end of it we were in debt with one of the worst squads in the league.

    A legacy is how a man leaves it, not how he finds it. As I've said quite clearly I love the bloke but just don't think he's right for the role and said why. If you don't like it you can **** off, but telling me how I should feel about aspects of our club was never going to down well with me was it? I'm happy to discuss the good Quinn did(where I'll all give him the credit i think he deserves just because I haven't in this thread doesn't mean I haven't in the past or continue to in the future) but not with a dickhead who's own sentiments aren't enough he has to tell other people what there's should be. You're one otter I wish would **** off back to your river bank.
     
    #33
  14. Disco down under

    Disco down under Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Dec 15, 2011
    Messages:
    16,164
    Likes Received:
    12,175
    Dreadful idea.

    Anton Ferdinand - £8m, £50,ooo a week.
     
    #34
    Brian Storm likes this.
  15. safcrocket

    safcrocket Active Member

    Joined:
    Oct 24, 2015
    Messages:
    174
    Likes Received:
    65
    Do you speak to people like that when your not on the internet?
     
    #35
  16. Brian Storm

    Brian Storm Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Dec 31, 2012
    Messages:
    48,871
    Likes Received:
    16,295
    Only when people speak down to me like a child. <ok>
     
    #36
  17. Tel (they/them)

    Tel (they/them) Sucky’s Bailiff

    Joined:
    May 11, 2011
    Messages:
    61,295
    Likes Received:
    55,496
    To be fair, you just highlighted a load of fluff about Quinn, you're a ****ing huge club and it's naive to think nobody would have resurrected your club. You might have gone into League One, maybe you'd have been bought by the Leibherr's instead of Southampton.

    What definitely happened under Quinn's tenure, is that he ran you deep in the red consistently, to the point where you struggle to keep your collective beak above water, every season, because FFP have got you by the balls.

    He's done a lot of good, and a lot of irresponsible things. To me, if I was a SAFC fan I'd probably want a proven success story. Nobody else has gone for Quinn since he got sacked/made redundant, that should tell you enough.
     
    #37
    Libby, Billy Death and Brian Storm like this.
  18. safcrocket

    safcrocket Active Member

    Joined:
    Oct 24, 2015
    Messages:
    174
    Likes Received:
    65
    Leeds utd, Nottingham forest, Sheffield utd all have slipped into the lower leagues and never came back up whilst encountering major financial difficulties. All 3 are big clubs.

    How can I be naive to think that somebody would come along and buy us?

    We were unbelievably fortunate to get Quinn, and have been the the premier league for the last 7-8 seasons because of the funding that he got put in place, by drumville and Short.
     
    #38
  19. safcrocket

    safcrocket Active Member

    Joined:
    Oct 24, 2015
    Messages:
    174
    Likes Received:
    65
    I wasn't speaking down to you like a child, just putting forward some points for you to consider.

    The way you reacted was very strange, I'm only talking about nail Quinn for god sake.
     
    #39
  20. Brian Storm

    Brian Storm Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Dec 31, 2012
    Messages:
    48,871
    Likes Received:
    16,295
    6 six seasons as chairman we signed 95 players. He pandered to Keane and Bruces every request repeatedly throwing money about with little thought for our long term security and left us right in the **** declaring he'd done a good job. Yes, for one season Bruce had the makings of a good team(should ****ing hope so given the financial support) but it didn't last long as there were more players to sign and contracts to throw about. Wickham 9m, Ferdinand 8m, Gardner 5m, ****ing George McCartney ****ing 6m!!!!1<yikes> I don't want the club to be that stupid ever again.
     
    #40
    Nostalgic and Dispicable_Tel like this.

Share This Page