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  1. PGFWhite

    PGFWhite Well-Known Member

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    If there was no future with them why are they still actively involved in the Club?
     
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  2. PGFWhite

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    Because on current form it will take us about 6 games to get those 4 points <ok>
     
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  3. Nosugarman1

    Nosugarman1 Well-Known Member

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    Just who is running the club? As far as I'm aware one or two of the directors e.g. Jenkins and Morgan kept a nominal no of sharers but have no voting power. Jenkins also appears to being sidelined and is chairman in name only. Has anyone got a list of the current directors.
     
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  4. swan_and_only

    swan_and_only Moderator Forum Moderator

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    If I had my way, I'd choose Marcelino GarcĂ­a Toral
    His Villarreal team was outstanding and would truly bring back the Swansea way.
     
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  5. seabreeze

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    Not sure , but I'd I'd like to sit them in a chair and run a current through them ...just a bit bitter sugar
     
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  6. PGFWhite

    PGFWhite Well-Known Member

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    If you don't know who is running the Club, how can you say getting rid of the previous owners wasn't a bad thing!!
     
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  7. DaiJones

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    The mind boggles :headbang:<doh>
     
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  8. swanseaandproud

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    Because they lost interest and could not take the club any further.......
     
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  9. Nosugarman1

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    Jenkins himself said that the previous board had taken the club as far as they could and had been looking for buyers for some time therefore we had no future under them. Every man and his dog knew we were stagnating under them. Whether the new owners are capable or willing to do so only time will tell. Morgan and Jenkins have very little say in things now which is why I would like to know who is really pulling the strings so criticism can be aimed in the right direction.
     
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  10. Taffvalerowdy

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    Jenkins and the previous shareholders (rather than Board as not all that Board were shareholders) were saying that predominantly because they wanted to cash in the value of their shares.

    I suspect if you say something often enough it will stick.....

    They viewed the window of opportunity as closing - and wanted to cash out and monetise the significant uplift in value ASAP.

    If they were going to be in it for the duration, do you honestly believe that the lack of investment in the playing squad would have happened - if they were simply the custodians of the Club then the increase in Sky monies would have enabled us to strengthen the squad - as others have done.

    No they wanted out to realise the increase in the value of their shares - if it was purely about getting investment into the Club to take us to the next level, then they could have issued new/additional shares and secured the Yankee dollar for the benefit of the Club......
     
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    The point I'm trying to make is that what has happened in the past is over and done and it is no good looking back. We have to deal with the here and now. The article in SS282's post suggests that Jenkins still has too much influence and whilst we should acknowledge what he has done I am with those who think it's now time for him to **** off.
     
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  13. Stumpy

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    "We cant take the club any further" HJ said with regard to the future of Swansea City AFC. Translated into English this actually means "We've maximised the clubs value and now we want to cash in our chips"

    The board started spouted their unrest and desire to cash in when the club was in America, for pre season with Laudrup. Was it a coincidence that the club was taken over the pond for pre season, maybe to be touted around the American sports market.

    They first tried to cash in in the States by negotiating with John Jay Moores (ex owner of the San Diego Padres) and Charles Noellan (a dodgy American business tycoon). Negotiations failed and there was much public discontent about the boards trying to sell to an American market. On the terraces there were banners shouting "This is OUR club. Tycoons not welcome" and the trust said that they didn't believe there was a need for the club to go ahead with any deal at that point in time.

    Unperturbed the board went underground for their second attempt. This time, the cloak and dagger 'negotiations', again with Americans, same ones? were surrounded by secrecy and held underground, we know the story. What we don't know, even now, is who HJ et al negotiated with and sold the club to. What we actually know is that an unknown group of individuals aka the 'Consortium' fronted by Kaplan (Owner of DC Utd) and Levien (a lawyer) eventually bought their shares and have since invested absolutely NOTHING into the club.

    Are Moores and the dodgy Noellan part of the consortium? is Mickey Mouse or Donald Trump? no one outside of Kaplan, Levien, HJ and his coven knows.

    For the last 3/4 years now, HJ et al have sucked every penny they could out of the club by consistently taking the cheapest options regarding the running of the Swans. To look after the club the board first appointed Monk (cheap option), then Guidolin (cheaper option), then the cheapest option of them all, Bewildered Bob.

    This deliberate action of taking the cheap option spread to the playing squad too. The board sold off squad assets namely Williams, Shelvey, Ayew, Bony. Irrespective of on field performance each had a value added price tag and were sold to cash in on their price tag.

    Through their cheap option policy the squad has been consistently weakened. The purchase of 'value' players to fill the squad haven't bolstered it at all; Fer cheap option when Joe would hav been the right option, VDH and Mawson cheap replacement for Williams when the right option would have been to keep Williams. Not replacing Shelvey, Ayew, Bony who were sold in order to maximise profit and squeeze out every penny from the club.

    All this has finally caught up with us. The club has almost bled out but the pain isn't over yet. Next to come, starvation.

    If the old board bled us dry the new board will starve us to death. They will intercept all monies and incomes from entering the clubs system and stop us from replenishing our losses. All the clubs life blood will be diverted away to the faceless, nameless unknown members of a consortium.

    It don't look good for us, we've been trapped, caught, bled, soon to be butchered.
     
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  14. PGFWhite

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    Which is why I asked "Why are they still actively involved in the Club".
     
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  15. PGFWhite

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    The point is, that what has happened in the past ISN'T over because those who perpertrated it are still active and hold important positions in our Club.
     
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  16. Matthew Bound Still Lurks

    Matthew Bound Still Lurks Well-Known Member

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    Why do you think the Trust was deliberately excluded from any discussions regarding the sale of the Club to Kaplan and Levien , because the previous sale to Noelle and Moorewhich the sellouts tried to instigate between themselves and the yanks was blocked by the Trust and Jenkins and co made sure that wasn't going to happen again as it's been proved .
     
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  17. Nosugarman1

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    If the old board members are not on the board how can they be actively involved. Jenkins still is but should be replaced as Chief Executive, Dineen has been reappointed, although the Trust are trying to block this. So I repeat the question who are the present Board members?
     
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    Jenkins and Martyn Morgan, plus Stuart MacDonald (Supporters Trust), and 4 Yanks - Kaplan, Levein, Eastman & Chaudhari

    https://beta.companieshouse.gov.uk/company/00123414/officers
     
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  20. Nosugarman1

    Nosugarman1 Well-Known Member

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    Thanks now I can see what PGF White is talking about. I can understand Jenkins being there even if I don't agree he should but why Morgan. I think the Yanks need to get their house in order if they want to get the fans on their side..
     
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