Personally If I had to choose from that list I would go. 1. Simeone - He's the polar Opposite to Wenger. His teams are tough, organised and defensive. Has done wonders on a very small budget at Athletico. Would be fascinating to see what he could do with more money. 2. Allegri - Tactically excellent. He has even surpassed Conte's achievements at Juve. Top Class. 3. Anchelotti - Proven Winner. His sides have consistently high win %'s. Has won all the major tournaments.
I went for Jardim. I would have gone for Simeone but I would prefer to watch a Jardim lead team than a Simeone one. He will get us playing attractive football again.
Sad saying that when Wenger was always remembered for playing attractive football. Now we look confused.com
Last 2-3 Seasons the attractive football has disappeared. It's weird because I thought maybe he would go back to the quick counter attacking style of his earlier sides (dropping the tikka-takka) but these days we dont have a defined style. We dont score a ton of goals anymore - but we still concede just as many as we always have.
IMO it is either Jardim or Anchelotti. None of the others make much sense. I suspect Jardim, if they can get him would be more in keeping with the Arsenal philosophy, but who knows. I really hope fans are patient with whoever it is though.
Probably Chelsea bound. ...Would free up Conte though. If I had to put money on it. I would get on Anchelotti. Seems like there are some traction to those rumours.
We gave Wenger 14 years so far since his last title. Arsenal fans are not impatient; it’s just that its been 14 years since a title, 7 years since we lost 8-2 to man united, 6 years since we were supposed to start “competing”, and god knows how long since we’ve needed a defensive mid. I’d love to see any of the other top teams go that long with the same manager and have the same failings - I don’t think they would make it half the time we did. Whomever it is will get plenty of time.
Arsene Wenger earned the patience of the fans. The next manager won't get nearly as much. A lot will depend on who it is and how the appointment is regarded. If it's an unpopular choice, then he'll have to start well or he won't get much time. If it's someone who's well regarded, then he'll get more of a chance to prove himself. Whoever it is has been shoes to fill and all the anti-Wenger sentiment will go away as soon as he leaves.
Why? You said yourself it depends on the appointment. Obviously if it's someone like Rodgers, who made bizarre signings, said weird stuff in press conferences and did an average job at Liverpool, then he won't be given much time because he is not rated as a very good manager, despite his successes with Celtic (which, let's be honest, don't mean much). I'm sincerely hoping that he isn't in the pecking order of managers to take over because he would be embarrassing. If, however, it's a manager like Sarri, Jardim, Spaletti, Allegri, Simeone or anyone of that ilk, they would certainly earn the patience of the fans because they have a proven track record of creating strong, competitive teams and winning [proper] silverware. If that means a thorough rebuilding job over the course of a Summer or two, then we'd be willing to put up with if it means we can sustain a great team for years to come. Given how unbalanced our squad is, I think a lot of fans would expect this to be the case. If the board are competent enough to make a smart appointment as manager, the entire mood around the club will change.
Because Wenger had a massive influence on the club that basically overhauled everything. Anyone new won't have as much credit with the fanbase or those in charge, regardless of who it is. He'll not only have to hit the ground running, in many ways, but he'll have to do it playing the right style of football. If you take Man Utd after Ferguson as an example, then I think you'll see where I'm coming from. Moyes was a poor appointment, did badly, didn't play the right football and wasn't received well in the first place. Van Gaal was seen as a step in the right direction, but wasn't successful enough and continued the dour football. Mourinho's won trophies already, but hasn't done as well in the league as expected and his football is equally dull. There are already a lot of doubts about him, despite his impressive record and trophy wins during his time at Old Trafford. It's not even enough for the next guy to win things, in my opinion. If he picks up a league or Champions League title, then it could be different, but otherwise he'll need to play good football, too. It's a real tall order, I think.
Agree that fans will be more patient if it's somebody with a big reputation. I don't think for one minute that we'd appoint Brendan Rogers because 1. He is largely **** and 2. He would be such an underwhelming appointment that the fans would be up in arms from day 1. Unless he turned things around immediately (which any manager is unlikely to do) then fans would be baying for his, and the boards blood. If we do appoint somebody like Simeone, Allegri or Jardim, then I think fans will look at it and say 'We need to give this guy 2 or 3 season before we're going to see the fruits'.
It would depend on how those seasons went, but a well received appointment would get more patience, I agree. Simeone's brought up a lot, but I think he'd be a massive culture shock for Arsenal. His style is virtually the opposite of what you're used to and I think he'd cull a lot of the squad. A lot would be down to how well he did, but counter-attacking football at the Emirates would be very new to a lot of people. Those that were around for George Graham wouldn't find it odd, but the Wenger only supporters would struggle, I think.
I'm old enough to have seen George Graham's teams and we were labelled as boring boring Arsenal. But it was effective and won us trophies. Also it wasn't nearly as dull as people make out. We had players like Rocastle, Merson, Thomas etc who played great creative football. But it was all underpinned by a solid GK and back 4. Simeone would be a culture shock to those who've only known the Wenger years, but I think people would warm to it, if it yielded results. It would take time though as it would be a 180 degree turn from the philosophy drilled into these players. Also it would probably take a couple of transfer windows to get the defensive players in that Simeone would need. Personally I think Arsenal will go for somebody like Allegri or Jardim, probably the latter as we're more likely to get him. They would be a better 'fit' for our style of play and I think the transition would be smoother from the Wenger philosophy.
The irony of you telling white_gunner not to be silly when you've posted some outrageous stuff in support of Wenger over the years is laughable. It's supporters like you who blindly support someone despite their failing which has caused this very problem with our club.
Joachim Low is an interesting choice. Not been a Club manager for a long time but has done a great job with Germany. His teams also play good football.
