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Match Day Thread Newcastle vs Southampton, Saturday 10th March, 15:00

Discussion in 'Southampton' started by Le Tissier's Laces, Mar 6, 2018.

  1. Osvaldorama

    Osvaldorama Well-Known Member

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    He does not deserve respect. He is completely clueless, and unwilling to change or try things. He gets paid thousands and thousands of pounds to make decisions, and he is getting them consistently wrong.

    The only way he earns my respect is if he resigns.
     
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  2. st_brendy

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    WBA, West Ham and Palace all lost at the weekend.

    Stoke have to take on City tonight.

    Huddersfield couldn't even win at home to 10 man Swansea.

    We're still outside the bottom three.

    We're one week closer to the finish line.

    We're closer to the return of Austin.

    We made two changes at HT on Saturday. That shows a manager who is willing to adapt, who thinks on his feet, who doesn't wait until the end of the game to change things.

    We haven't lost in 2018, when you ignore the games that we have lost.
     
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  3. Saintmagic

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    Not enough '''' and no mention of selective memory. Poor.
     
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  4. SaintJabie

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    This is the key point for me. We played a couple of games in windy, rainy conditions over Christmas against teams which are in the same bracket as we are: Leicester and Crystal Palace. Both times the opposition played a pressing game, and we didn't. They forced us into passes which went awry and capitalised on our mistakes. Now with Leicester, you would have hoped that Pelligrino would have learnt from his errors, and come Palace and the same conditions we'd match them up, press them and force them into errors. He didn't and we made exactly the same mistake against Palace. That was the game which drove me over the edge from "Give him a chance in the transfer window" to "This clown has to go now"
     
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  5. Puck

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    Good summary here from football365:

    Mauricio Pellegrino

    Southampton have still not been in the Premier League’s bottom two all season. Southampton are still in the FA Cup quarter-finals, and face a League One club in the last eight. Southampton are still sleepwalking towards relegation.

    As Nick Harris noted, Newcastle are ‘a Championship squad who, thanks to their manager, could end mid-table Premier League’. Southampton, on the other hand, are ‘the opposite’. A squad containing Euro 2016-winner Cedric Soares, £15million signing Wesley Hoedt, Manchester City target Ryan Bertrand, £15.4m purchase Mario Lemina, Dusan Tadic, Nathan Redmond and £19m buy Guido Carrillo should not be battling relegation.

    The common denominator is Mauricio Pellegrino. These under-performing players should not be absolved of blame, yet they are being sent into battle blindfolded and with no bullets. The irony of the manager’s safety-first mentality sending Southampton down could persuade Alanis Morissette into a rewrite.

    It took just 20 minutes for the away fans to make their displeasure known at St James’ Park. As Southampton broke forward, the ball was played to Cedric Soares on the right-hand side. The right-back was in a fine position to cross to the waiting Carrillo, but instead turned and played the ball backwards to Pierre-Emile Højbjerg. The sting was taken out of a promising attack, and yet it felt as though this was a directive from a manager desperate not to take any risks.

    Not doing so is a risk in itself. Newcastle were well-drilled on Saturday, acclimatising to the opponent and counter-attacking with devastating incisiveness. Southampton treat every game the exact same, with their plodding approach and negative tactics compounded with the continued use of a formation that is simply not working.

    It sounds simple, but only because it is: it is a manager’s job to manage. Pellegrino is failing miserably on that front.
     
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  6. Saints FC 76

    Saints FC 76 Well-Known Member

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    What baffles me is that the club appointed MP on the basis he plays high press, attacking football.

    It's abundantly clear this is not the case so why have they stuck with him.

    Shambles.
     
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  7. VocalMinority

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    I've still not worked out what Pellegrino's style actually is, other than it involves a lot of backpasses.
     
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  8. davecg69

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    Just watched MOTD from Saturday night. I had promised myself I wouldn’t, as it would only depress me further, but, in the end, I felt I had to, just in case there were some positives to be had from the game.
    Well, there weren’t. I didn’t see one piece of passion from any of the players, such as I saw from Newcastle, West Ham, Swansea and even West Brom. Sure,WH and WBA imploded, but they showed effort for much of the game, something I don’t see from our players. I’ll m seriously concerned that the mental attitude of our players is “oh well, if we go down, I’ll just move to another club”. We need someone on the pitch to get hold of the players and drive them and we need a manager on the sidelines with the passion to instill in the players.
    People said Claude had no passion last season, but I saw him seriously upset at players not making runs or taking the easy option. Now we’re just “too nice” and we’re being bullied - something Wigan and West Ham will do against us in the next couple of weeks. If we don’t get some backbone, we will go down, I’m sorry to say.
    Come on Saints. Where the fighting spirit? :emoticon-0121-angry
     
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  9. ----HistoryRepeating----

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    I think it was the most painful defeat since Brighton in League One. You remember the one, Gus Poyets first game in charge. Were we to win, we would have entered the top half for the first time that season after getting over our -10 handicap.
    Or the Bristol City defeat, where we had gone a whole year unbeaten, only for them to rattle up and inflict our first in the last days of the year. Ouch.
    So, on the pain scale, that's pretty high.
    (I'm not going back further than 2009 as many games would clearly eclipse these results)
     
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  10. Pelletron

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    Palace do have a problem similar to ours, though - teams know they can put one past them in the final minutes of a game. With us, it's that teams know they just have to score first and they're pretty much home and dry.
     
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    Those teams being called Tottenham and Man Utd?

    Straws. Clutching.
     
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  12. steve79

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    Mp is still with us u see. That "something is afoot at the club/watch this space" didnt lead to anything then i see


    Well, turns out something was afoot at the club.sorry for doubting you godders
     
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  13. Puck

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    Something is afoot. Les has bought some new shoes.
     
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  14. Brinkworth Saint

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    Whatever our views maybe re MP the players are clearly not making the effort, hence they need to take their share of the blame but in my view the Board have totally failed to make the right substitution when faced with overwhelming evidence that things were going from bad to worse. They and the players do not have my respect at all
     
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  15. Number 1 Jasper

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    I never thought it would .

    He's staying , and it's in the lap of the gods if we stay up or not .

    It's the total silence from anyone ( apart from the manager and players ) that I find strange , you would at least expect rumours surely .....
     
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  16. Ronnie Hotdog (MLsfc)

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    My post was sarcastic
     
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  17. Ronnie Hotdog (MLsfc)

    Ronnie Hotdog (MLsfc) Well-Known Member

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    What a crazy monday that was!
     
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  18. Libby

    Libby Derby County, we're coming for you

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    People getting giddy over instagram posts <rofl>

    Gotta love the modern game...
     
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  19. oldstocktonsaint

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    Sorry if offended. Having a bad day on the sofa. Just think that the manager is facing the same witch hunt as Puel. He is accused of not knowing the Premier league, unlike Pardew, Lambert, etc. Saturday's match showed that he is helpless when the players don't start right, then show no fight.He is in part to blame but so are the players and board.
     
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  20. Ronnie Hotdog (MLsfc)

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    Well... what a crazy monday that was!
     
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