Best thing to do with refs is send the vvd suspension to independent court of arbitration and see what the FA do then. do they panic? If we make it be known we don't roll over and we will get very awkward if treated poorly then they will go and have a word behind the scenes and amazingly they will stop doing these things.
great idea apart from the fact you need to go through all available routes inside the sports organisation first and the fact they would just chuck the application in the bin
you've forgotten one thing. Its not just two groups playing on their own. Its an entire world of interested parties wanting to watch the game for entertainment or betting. when one group involved was, and is, set up to manage the game by the authority making masses of cash out of the holding of games then they have to deliver the entertainment and such. It is as if the fans are completely ignored by the FA and their referees. It is in the end an entertainment industry where the home, away and neutral fans all pay their money to be entertained. Fans are certainly ignored by the clubs involved who employ the Mourinho's of this world and the players who roll about on the floor constantly, the end result of a trophy seems to be their only thought. The customer of football is almost always treated with utter contempt
nah, the sheer act of following said process would put the wind up em. It won't matter about the final result, its just being dragged in and a witness like mike dean being called. A witness like the VAR official who decided that red was fine yesterday or that the red for Macallister was fine. Just put one up on the stand and have a lawyer spend two hours teasing out their decision making and rules of the game. hell just threatening to call mike dean as a witness should be enough to panic them.
For every time we feel the ref is out to get us, there is an equal time where one of our opposition feel like all the refs do is favour us and give us unfair advantage. It all evens out. Refs have screwed up this season against us alot... they will screw up in our favour in the future too... ... just need to move on and not dwell on it.
why mike dean was clearly making it up see my earlier posts not that CAS would accept the application anyway.
Apologies if mentioned already, but the ref pretty much gives TAA no option, but to throw the ball away when he fails to award a free kick for the shove by Gordon. TAA is on his arse off the pitch, Burns is coming to take the ball for a throw in and our full back is way out of position. He has to delay it or the team is disadvantaged.
no. all he has to do is hold the ball himself and refuse to give it up. there's nothing in the rules that states he cannot hold the ball and hand it to the ref when he comes over and sorts it out. It is up to him to get up and carry it on the park or a Newcastle ball troll to give their player the ball quickly. we need to box smart here with all these things. The rule is not about holding the ball or messing around, its about kicking it away. So on your own offense or conceding of a throw pick it up and encourage your opponent to dare come take it and start a row. then just look at the ref and say poor me. exactly the same thing about time wasting. don't do it on a throw or goal kick. no, instead throw yourself to the ground screaming like you've been shot and roll about but then refuse treatment as they will order you to stay off for 30 seconds. Same thing for goals kicks. don't fetch the ball, don't do anything bar wait for someone to go get you a ball and give it to you to take the thing. Didn't someone get booked for taking less than 10 seconds on a throw after someone else took the time then handed it off? just instruct your team to go nowhere near the ball that's gone dead if its your ball. there will always be **** housing. You just cannot do the same things the refs are looking for. If the refs want to act the **** it only encourages everyone to find new and better ways of exploiting the rules.
the instruction for this season is once the ref has given a foul , throw in etc no player from the "defending" team is to touch the ball the punishment for doing so is a yellow card Not convinced the refs got the memo though
What was also missed was that when Trent threw the ball on the pitch, Gordon immediately kicked it further away by about 10 yards.
there was also an incident where I think Robertson? kicked ball back where tripper stole 5 yards on a free. no yellow. it's total inconsistencies but equally a full yellow for such an antic is far too much. it'd be easier give them another card colour and make it a weeks wages fine lol. no punishment in game bar the time added back but a real personal issue
That’s just wrong. The rule is about stopping the opposition from taking the free kick or throw. Holding onto it to delay is exactly the same as throwing it away so both would have been booked. what he should have done was left the ball there and got up and got back into position, or worse case picked the ball up and as he runs back into position put the ball down on the touchline. But easier said than done once you think you’ve been unfairly treated
As others have said, it's a storm in a teacup atm. In a few weeks we'll be back to how it was before when real time wasting went unpunished with a random yellow for a goalkeeper taking 10 seconds to kick the ball out while his counterpart is allowed to fall on and hug the ball and run around with it for 1 minute with no consequences.
If the ref gives a foul by Ratty on Trent then he doesn't chuck the ball away and doesn't get a yellow. Btw, I think it was more disgust than conscious time-wasting.
