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Match Day Thread Newcastle UNITED v Manchester Reds

Discussion in 'Newcastle United' started by Albert's Chip Shop, Apr 8, 2025.

  1. Geordie Ginola

    Geordie Ginola Well-Known Member

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    15 games. 4 wins.

    look at the stats of the Wolves manager.

    Or Moyes.

    They both have had no money.

    Do explain.
     
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  2. Geordie Ginola

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    Here’s a screenshot. Just to assist. That improvement. Explain please.
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  3. Cockface

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    I've already explained this to you when I mentioned the fact every clubs circumstances are different, but you're either not thinking or you don't understand what I'm saying.

    You seem to want to pretend Howe hasn't required money also though, so you're all over the place at this point.. and Moyes was sacked at Man United, so was he no good then?

    Let's keep it simple in any case.

    You're writing Amorim off and I'm saying he should be judged after some backing and sufficient time to address huge issues at the club :emoticon-0148-yes: fair enough?
     
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  4. Hung Drawn and Quartered

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  5. Cockface

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    There's a difference between that and seeing improvements over the last month or two in terms of organisation and in seeing some kind of style of play beginning to develop.

    It's very important when you're picking a fight that you actually make sure you understand what your argument is against in the first place mate.
     
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  6. Geordie Ginola

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    Fair. As long as at present you admit that 4 wins out of 15 at one of the world’s biggest clubs isn’t good enough for anyone.

    He’s got a squad worth 850m and he’s failing to adapt.

    Hes making mistake after mistake and the fact is he’s looking distinctively average if not out of his depth.

    Keane said it that there is no improvement.

    I’m loving this though. I’m so looking forward to Manu spending 200m and then still not anywhere near us.
     
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  7. Geordie Ginola

    Geordie Ginola Well-Known Member

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    Results business pal. It’s a results business. And that’s all that matters.

    Let me find the stat about how much Manu have spent over the last 3 seasons though.

    Give me two minutes.
     
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  8. Geordie Ginola

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    Here you go pal.

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  9. Cockface

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    No mate there's no other demands I'm prepared to meet under this agreement.

    I'm happy for you to write him off and I'm not going to judge based on things I've noticed and the fact he's had no backing and very little time at what's a wreck of a club.

    That's it and there's nothing left for either of us to say mate.

    Let's hope we can beat Palace that's more relevant than what happens at Man United anyway.
     
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  10. Cockface

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    Results and improvements aren't the same thing gg

    If I'd said results were improving I could understand your error, but I haven't.

    For God's sake stop digging mate.
     
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  11. Geordie Ginola

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    The last transfer window mate. 265m euros. Maybe that’s not Amorim. But any manager in world football would dream of that kind of spend in one window.
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  12. Cockface

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    Amorim only joined this season GG.
    Have you been drinking?
     
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  13. Cockface

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    Tbh with you GG when I post this once and then twice and you're still chasing me around it's telling me that you're not even reading anything anyway.

    I'm actually annoyed with myself for not realising earlier and trying to explain again and again.
     
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  14. Geordie Ginola

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    He’s inherited a very very VERY expensive good quality squad.

    He just can’t get them playing. Howe would have that many side playing well above what RA is. Fact. Howe still has some of the Ashley players playing like prime Maldini.

    RA has done nothing.

    What is it that he warrants this godlike status you give him?

    He’s got a massive squad and a very wealthy squad also.

    In fact the player wages dwarfes ours.
     
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  15. Geordie Ginola

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    You maybe just need to accept that sometimes you’re wrong. And this time you are.

    That’s ok. I like you. And you know that. But Come on this guy is a clown and a fraud.

    We destroyed them and you couldn’t bring yourself to say I was right about us beating them easily.

    Come on sir. You’re better than that. I know you are. X
     
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  16. Cockface

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    It doesn't matter how expensive that ****e was he's had no backing and he was brought in because it's a mess.

    This is now the 3rd time I've said this, but you're entitled to write him off and I'm not because he joined a mess, he's not had long, and had no financial backing yet.

    You can run around pulling out as many irrelevant arguments away from my position as you like , but you're not debating my points anyway, and instead you're simply seeking out reasons to justify yours. To justify a position I've 3 times said you're allowed to have anyway, and I just disagree..

    Now please take the olive branch and move on.
     
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  17. Geordie Ginola

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    Ok. Let’s give him two transfer windows and let’s see if he can replicate what Howe has.

    The fact he’s starting significantly ahead of Howe we should as such forget about right.

    So Howe started with an Ashley squad.

    And RA started with a 850 squad. But let’s forget about that right.

    It’s not an even playing field.

    RA even has the luxury of selling players worth 10x that of Howes inherited players.

    But ok. Let’s give RA 2 transfer windows to see if he can emulate Howe.
     
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  18. Cockface

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    Why are you comparing him against Howe anyway?

    I only mentioned Howe requiring money because you and a few others are ignoring the fact Amorims had none when you're saying he's a fraud.

    The judgement comes when he's had some money and whether man United are better than under ten hag or not and that's it.

    I think you're now receptive to the idea he needs some signings though, so fair play on that.
     
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  19. Geordie Ginola

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    The bar isn’t exactly high though is it.

    I mean he just has to win a few games. Which he hasn’t so far.

    But if he gets 200m spent. He should win more game than not. Because he has a squad which is worth more than we are now.

    Not when Eddie took over. His squad was terrible:
     
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  20. Cockface

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    The ceiling above the bar is, which is pretty low because of the **** club he's joined.

    The squads **** and the fact they over spent on it isn't his fault, but it's just another reason why it's harder for him.

    Howe literally walked in the door to a new takeover, a wave of positivity and 150 million a month later.

    Just adding what Howes done since is fantastic, but have a little thought for the importance of the initial backing, and the mood around the club when criticising other managers, that haven't had any, and the mood around the club is awful.
     
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