The hacks are only having a pop at us because we aren't one of their top 4 darlings if it was man u chelski Liverpool etc it wouldn't even get a mention ffs
New stadium thread
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I don't understand why the rush?
I don't see why we would want to move into it half way through a season anyway. The team will have to adjust to another new pitch. Why not next season with a pre season to get used to it.
It definitely says in the article that the incident occurred at 8.45 am on Friday - presumably the 17th. So somebody’s got it wrong.
It’s says last Friday in the article. As that was published on Fri 24th, I’m assuming they mean 17th?
There are a number of factors...
1. People were at the end of their tether with Wembley. Attendances were dropping towards the end of the season and the mood had changed. There was some booing at half time against Newcastle when it was 0-0 and unrest against Leicester as well.
2. Season ticket holders were well pissed off with the Wembley pricing for worse views and their inability to move on tickets via the exchange because of the additional capacity.
3. We signed a 1 year deal with Wembley for £15m for 2017/18, believing that the stadium could/should be ready around Aug/Sep 2018. Everyone, including the club, was surprised at the attendances from last season and Wembley's terms for this season are based on that. It's been suggested that we're paying £2m per game this time round. That leaves us slightly ahead of break even but nowhere near what we need to service our debts.
4. If the stadium's finished in September or October or November, what's the point in having it empty for months at end? We owe somewhere up to £400m and need to maximise our income asap and it's not just tickets. We get £0 out of concessions at Wembley. NWHL is set up to maximise this form of income - better food and beer with fast filling service etc. The club are counting on this income
5. We want the sponsorship money from the stadium and that's got to start based on it being used. I can't see Nike, Audi, HP, EA Sports, etc. wanting to sponsor an empty stadium. Yes, we have 16 non-football events but the sponsors want PL and CL football.
There are bound to be 100 more but it's all about the money. I've bought a couple of really run-down properties and renovated them whilst living elsewhere. I've never moved into a finished home. Last time, we were fitting the toilet as Mrs B and the kids were overseeing the removals men. There was no kitchen, we lived on take away for 2 weeks and no flooring for a couple of months. The place looks great now, though.
This is my point Bri...it is all about the money...Levy needs to sometimes think about other things too...his money will come...I just don't understand the impatience.
Apart from the first one...the rest reek of greed and impatience to make money.
I'm sure the fans would understand the strategy if we just did Wembley for another year. Our record their was damn good....and why is everyone ignoring the adjustment period required at the New WHL? What if we are having a decent season and then we decide to move and play our last third of the season at our new home?
Fans get pissed off because Levy has been trying to fleece them with season ticket prices...therefore comes back down to my original point.
I'm not fussed when we go there because we will go there soon enough and when we do..all will be forgotten and it will be great. I just think the 1 year time frame was overly ambitious anyway and delays are to be expected. It's the media and free speech for idiots via social media that's made it into a song and dance.
The PL is money. Citeh and Chelsea are where they are because of billions of pounds. If we had Citeh's money, we'd still have Kyle Walker and Bale and Modric and would have signed Aguero....and Hazard......and Isco.......and Martial ........and Toby wouldn't have ****ed off MP. We didn't have the money, so we're fighting to try and win stuff with clubs who can blow us out of the water........now.
You can't say you want us to win things and don't want the club to make more money. Yes, Leicester won the league but where are Kante, Mahrez and Drinkwater now? They ****ed off........for more money.......because that's how you win things. Success is bought. Citeh are nowhere near as big a club as Spurs. They're just artificially rich.
This team is our best since the early 60's. I'm going to enjoy it because I've watched us under Sugar and managed by 'The Bloke in the Coat', Ramos, Gross, Hoddle, AVB and it was a lot worse. Yes, I want us to win something but I don't think there's too much more that we can do right now, financially, to achieve that......but it's coming. That's what the new stadium can do. It won't give us United's money or Citeh's but we can get up with Liverpool, Chelsea and Arsenal and cement our place in Europe's Top 10 for when the European Super League comes and allow us to keep players and sign better ones. It's the only road to sustainably competing. Without it we become Southampton or Leicester or Everton,
If you want big money signings now and guaranteed success now...........you're supporting the wrong club. I think older fans like me and RCL have seen us relegated, almost go out of business and finish below The Gooners for 2 decades. We're on the up and what we need right now is heart and faith and guts to keep going. I'm in every step of the way because it's my ****ing club!
I definately want us to make money...I just think it could have waited until next season, instead of such a lack of clarity for all concerned...not as though we are going to invest this season. You make out as though I've been spoilt with success and I'm a recent fan...two trophies takes me back to my school days. The fact that I would rather us go into the new stadium next season having had a pre season to familiarise and to just get our heads down and get on with this season at a stadium where we had a pretty good record suggests I have faith and guts to keep on going. You also have not heard a murmur out of me since the window slammed shut because after that point I'm backing whoever is wearing our badge and have no problem with our strongest XI. However I was entitled to feel disgruntled that our weak areas were not strengthened....but that's done now...I'll complain next summer.
I'm disappointed we didn't get Martial or Grealish. Seemingly, that's who we were after. Neither club would sell in the end. We looked at Zaha but weren't prepared to pay £70m or didn't have it 'up front', which Palace wanted. I don't slate the club for it. I think Levy ****ed up getting Grealish early in the window and that was predictable but it's what he does. He's tried to bring in a DoF but MP won't have it. So, we get Levy's good and bad points. United would rather lose money than sell us Martial. If MP wanted him, or Zaha and nobody else, then that's that. That's how I see what happened.
If we'd sold Toby, we would have been in for de Ligt. It's being suggested that we made a late bid for Tammy Abraham, which pisses me off as I don't want us trying to buy from Chelsea and he ain't good enough NOW. He'd end up like GKN or Vinnie. There's just no point in buying these players as MP won't play 'em.
Really negative Spurs fans piss me off a bit but I don't think you're one of those but I don't get the point in moaning about stuff that isn't going to change. ENIC are ENIC, Levy is Levy and that's that. I'm generally for positives. It's just me. Don't take it personally. If we're improving, which I think that we are as a club, then I'm going to be relatively happy. I expect it to be more expensive to support our club and difficult to win stuff, season on season. I'd love a trophy but know we need Top 4 most of all right now. We need the money and exposure more than a League Cup win, no matter what the press say. Look at Arsenal's buys now that the're out of the CL. Winning the FA Cup ain't what it was. Sorry but it isn't.
If Winksy and Big Vic are fit, and we have a bit more luck with injuries and we don't sell anyone but GKN, I think that we could win something, finish top 4 and have a good season, no matter where we play. Here's hoping. COYS.
Arsenal have built The Emirates.
Citeh have the Council House.
United have looked at extending OT.
Chelsea wanted to rebuild SB.
Liverpool have extended Anfield and will probably do so again.
Everton want a new stadium.
We're doing the same because Chelsea are going to suffer massively without doing it. Don't let the press poison what is a fantastic build, that is going to revitalise our fortunes. So there was a water leak? So what? We're going to have the best stadium in Europe. What's not to love?
When I sold my house in Sussex where I had lived for 20 years it was finished and completely decorated. This had happened finally in the last 6 weeks we lived there. I thought this is actually really nice living in a finished house.
I'm still finishing the one I have in Scotland but I have only been here for 12 years.
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