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Joelinton's Right Foot said:
I like the sound of that!

I do think the amenities would follow any investment and building - though that can't be taken for granted. There is so much scope to develop the railway arches and existing brick butresses to incorporate them into any development that it would be a great benefit to both the economy and environment of the city.

The whole of that part of the west end is wasted sapce - including the built on areas such as Rye Hill, Maple Terrace, etc with soulless concrete blocks and tiny houses that don't provide a great living environment or high density living. Previous generations of developers have let this city down badly with poor planning and chasing a quick buck.
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Yep. In the 1960s the city fathers had so much ambition but little vision or refinement. It seems that since the metro and Eldon Square were developed, subsequent civic figures have had neither ambition nor vision. The city has felt emasculated and enfeebled. Time to change!
 
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boxheed said:
You,ve already got train/ metro/ bus routes to use and then within walking distance to ground and did I mention PUBS!!!!
Not sure about the out of town suggestions at all
That view as you get anywhere near Newcastle, unbeatable
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You'll still get some miserable bastards complaining about the walk up the hill from the bus stops though. It's them I was trying to think of!!
 
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AgentofAlnwick said:
Yep. In the 1960s the city fathers had so much ambition but little vision or refinement. It seems that since the metro and Eldon Square were developed, subsequent civic figures have had neither ambition nor vision. The city has felt emasculated and enfeebled. Time to change!
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It's a drastic soulution, but if the money was there I would tear down and rebuild certain parts of the city one area at a time. Find an undeveloped area (the never rebuilt Scotswood or Lower Benwell areas for example) and build enough good quality homes to rehouse the people living in the first area then empty it, tear it down, rebuild better with not just houses but amenities and then move onto the next one. Blakelaw, Cowgate, Rye Hill, Arthurs Hill, etc. There are other run down areas such as Benwell and Fenham that actually have good houses that are neglected by private landlords to maximise profits. Get rid of the bad landlords and revitalise those areas too.
 
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The arena area probably does make more sense all things considered and is way big enough for a stadium as well as perhaps a big fanzone area. The rail links (albeit disused) are already there and could be utilised I would imagine. The road links are there, straight on to bridges either side. The training facilities/academy etc can stay where they are, no real need to uproot those, they don't have to be in the same area. Spurs' isn't nor is Leicester's new training facility etc. There is also land on the other side of the Redheugh Bridge behind Pottery Lane which could also be used for something. If there's a desire to move away from SJP because it's simply not viable to develop/extend etc but the desire is equally as strong to maintain the City Centre location then this really is the only alternative that I can see. It'll be readily available within a few years and we could be playing there within 5 I reckon quite easily. Be a right eye catcher coming into toon on the train that's for sure....lit up like a christmas tree in the night sky like the Allianz Arena !!

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cronemeister said:
The arena area probably does make more sense all things considered and is way big enough for a stadium as well as perhaps a big fanzone area. The rail links (albeit disused) are already there and could be utilised I would imagine. The road links are there, straight on to bridges either side. The training facilities/academy etc can stay where they are, no real need to uproot those, they don't have to be in the same area. Spurs' isn't nor is Leicester's new training facility etc. There is also land on the other side of the Redheugh Bridge behind Pottery Lane which could also be used for something. If there's a desire to move away from SJP because it's simply not viable to develop/extend etc but the desire is equally as strong to maintain the City Centre location then this really is the only alternative that I can see. It'll be readily available within a few years and we could be playing there within 5 I reckon quite easily. Be a right eye catcher coming into toon on the train that's for sure....lit up like a christmas tree in the night sky like the Allianz Arena !!

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Bit of a trek to the Earl for chippy like but hey ho !
 
AgentofAlnwick said:
Broadly, we seem to be singing from the same hymn sheet.

Newcastle has extensive green spaces (thanks largely to the vast but bleak town moor), but are under-utilised and neglected. Visiting Leazes Park usually involves an encounter with a group of tracksuited teenagers up to some nefarious activity or other , while the park-keepers lodge has been derelict and abandoned for as long as I can remember. Perhaps this takeover will lead to a boom in economic activity, vastly greater inward investment and civic pride? We can all hope...

I've seen the plans for the Calder's Yard site and not convinced that a series of apartment blocks with little to no amenities would bring life to the area. However, there's so much poor quality/low value land there - primarily to the west but also north along Railway Street - that there's plenty of room for residential development as well as a new stadium and ancillary developments. There is so much scope to completely transform the area west of Redheugh Bridge up to Newcastle Business Park and beyond. With blue sky joined-up thinking, you could end up with massive landscaping, apartments and terrace housing, an 80,000 stadium, a metro extension, new hospitality and sporting facilities.
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The Calders sites have had many residential schemes proposed over the years but none have been built, not sure if it is about cost or demand. My feeling is that people just dont see it as an attaractive part of the city to live in and there are other parts of the city which are much more desirable. A sports complex on the scale of a new stadium and other facilities would change this and make it a much more desirable area. It is a kind of chicken and egg situation. Just look at how the Ethiad complex has regenerated a part of Manchester, this could halp redevelop all the land to the East and West and there is quite a lot of space along railway Street and up to Scotswood Road which could be further redevloped.
 
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The unassailable location of St.James's, as well as the sentiments and history linked to the ground, would make it a huge wrench to move home. However, from an urban renewal point of view, and for sheer ambition and scope, a new stadium on the Calder site could have an enormously positive impact on city and football club.
 
ToonMag said:
Just came across this on Twitter
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That looks pretty ****ing good like. But will there be enough room for 1,342,987 fans that gave up season tickets and thought the NUST would get them their seats back?????
 
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