Not quite as long as that, I appreciate it feels it but its really only been 1 year. Last year with Hughes as our starting manager we had the same points, it looked very bleak. But under Pellegrino we had 13 points after 12 games and sat in 14th position. Funnily enough, we were 9 points from 5th that season as we are this season which just goes to show how that it is currently easier to climb the table than that season. That sounds positive! I'm not denying that this is the 4th season since Koeman left and took the fun times with him but let's not rewrite history and say at this stage of the season for last 4 years we have all felt doomed!