You seem to be disagreeing with the sentiment yet disagreed with me disagreeing with the sentiment. So not quite sure what point you're making.
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People looking in from the outside are saying things along the lines of Birmingham.
After the initial Turkish Simon Cowell thing, I’ve never thought of Acun as anything other than a Turkish Del Boy.
Whilst his PR is good with the things he does for the fans, there always seems to be an underlying feeling of deception.
For me this goes back to his first transfer window, last year, I thought he’d learnt from his Football Manager 22 experience, all things seemed rosy with Rosie.
Then the sacking, but he’s put it into simple words, which he isn’t wrong about, with regards to entertaining football.
However his form of running the club with the signings being his preferences over a manager having little or no input is worrying.
This format, though, does fit with NFL & NBA styles, where people outside of the coaching set up bring in the players & the coaches have to get the best from them.
While Acun is still spinning thing’s positively, it’s all good, but there’s always the fear that he’s going to try & interfere with the playing side.
For now, he’s still at the higher end of ownership for me.
After the initial Turkish Simon Cowell thing, I’ve never thought of Acun as anything other than a Turkish Del Boy.
Whilst his PR is good with the things he does for the fans, there always seems to be an underlying feeling of deception.
For me this goes back to his first transfer window, last year, I thought he’d learnt from his Football Manager 22 experience, all things seemed rosy with Rosie.
Then the sacking, but he’s put it into simple words, which he isn’t wrong about, with regards to entertaining football.
However his form of running the club with the signings being his preferences over a manager having little or no input is worrying.
This format, though, does fit with NFL & NBA styles, where people outside of the coaching set up bring in the players & the coaches have to get the best from them.
While Acun is still spinning thing’s positively, it’s all good, but there’s always the fear that he’s going to try & interfere with the playing side.
For now, he’s still at the higher end of ownership for me.
He isn't saying he decides the signings!! He, same as others from the club, have very clearly, repeatedly said how it's a team effort, and rightly so!! Including the manager having a yes or no call.
All this mis-representation is a tad alarming imo. Acun isn't beyond question but come on. Perhaps we / some do deserve Enob after all (not aimed specifically at you BB).
Let's at least hear what he says tonight (and try our best not to twist things and make dramas out of nothing).
All this mis-representation is a tad alarming imo. Acun isn't beyond question but come on. Perhaps we / some do deserve Enob after all (not aimed specifically at you BB).
Let's at least hear what he says tonight (and try our best not to twist things and make dramas out of nothing).
He'll undoubtably say all the right things tonight. Hopefully he'll back them up once the manager is in the door. He most likely will.
His actions are what will reassure fans more than anything he could say. For example, the recruitment team did a really good job attracting the loan players in January, but it was still short term thinking on their behalf. I think one thing he needs to do differently this summer is think about the long-term progress of the squad and get us to a place in which we don't need to be so reliant on loan players again. He's a businessman and, at the end of the day, it can't be good business for him to keep spending that amount of money on temporary players every year rather than assets City would own. We're always going to look at the loan market, but we shouldn't be bringing in so many in one go again. That'll also go a long way in backing up his rationale that sacking the manager was in the best interest of the long term vision for the club.
I think budgetary restraints coupled with a desire to compete in the upper echelons of the division will practically ensure a reliance on a full allocation of loan players going forward.
How else do you compete with squad values in the hundreds of millions when restricted to a mean annual investment of 13m a year?
I'm not saying we shouldn't be focussed on building a solid core of permanents, but the cherries in the cake will almost certainly need to be loans.
I get that and completely agree about the cherry on the cake. Particularly if we do continue to attract players like Delap and Carvalho. However, it would at least be better if we weren't left so short once they ended. We've signed an absolute bucket load of players since Acun bought the club. A less gun-ho, and more incremental approach would be more reassuring, in my opinion.
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There's definitely an argument for having a stable core to add to, as opposed to root and branch change and churning over significant chunks of the squad every window.
But I'm sure that's the ideal they'll be working to.
And just remember any player interviewed will say about the new manager…
his attention to details amazing tbf the gaffers second to none
his attention to details amazing tbf the gaffers second to none
Good post.
I also rolled my eyes when he said Jaden and Greaves will not be sold (unless they want to go). I mean that just means they won't be sold unless we get a decent offer the player is interested in. And not suspicious that he said that just after sacking a (mostly) popular manager.
yea honestly. player interviews are pointless, they all say the same ****e
how do you feel about the 3 points
**** MATE
and number 7 for them stinks like ****e
They're both likely to go, so it feels like it's pre-empitvely shifting some of the blame onto the players: they went because they wanted to, not because the club chose to sell them.
If you come out and say you want to sell them the price goes down.
It's also a statement of fact that we would be acting to our own detriment by standing in their way of progression.
I think we need to be careful that we're not getting hung up on semantics too much when dealing with an owner expressing himself in a non native language.
Ah if only we lived in everyone’s perfect world , how simple football would be - but what would we talk or rant about ?!
So keep it simple and say "we're not selling them". We all know how it works and understand that they won't stand in the way of any player that has the opportunity to play at a higher level – and that it would be silly not to accept the sums that are being rumoured – so there's not much need to add the bit about how it would mean the players have gone to them and asked for it.
I’m going off that first window when he flew all over the place to sign “bug name” players.
Also his comments about how he’s going to sign Giles & the whole Pandur thing. There must be something with the Twine signing, because Rosie wasn’t here when we first chased him.
I understand the whole team thing, maybe it’s the way he speaks as though the signings are his decisions & what he wants, I don’t know?
Bug like I said, NFL & NBA teams sign players & the coaches have to get the results with those players.
Hopefully the combination of the players we get & the coach we get are successful.