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New manager at Leeds required

Discussion in 'Hull City' started by THE EXCLUSIVE 10%, Feb 27, 2022.

  1. SydneyTiger14

    SydneyTiger14 Well-Known Member

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    Is it actually a serious question? West Ham, Brighton, Everton, Villa, Leicester, Newcastle, Watford, Norwich, Burnley not enough for you?
     
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  2. rovertiger

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    Does anyone else remember when we brought a foreign manager in and thick ****er Merson said "why didn't they bring an English manager in like Henry?" <laugh>
     
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  3. Mckechnie Orange

    Mckechnie Orange Well-Known Member

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    Leeds down and Wednesday up could make for a couple of good Derbies next year.
     
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  4. Mckechnie Orange

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    None of those are anywhere close to Dyche.

    Dyche has overcome second season syndrome for a lot longer than the second season with not a lot of budget.

    He's definitely an English Manager that deserves a chance with a top 4 budget IMHO.

    Won't happen mind.
     
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  5. NewcastleTiger

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    He’s Simeone without the fancy name and prestigious playing career. Identical styles if he had better players guarantee he wouldn’t play the style he does.
     
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  6. SydneyTiger14

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    Wilder of that list is the most impressive English manager IMO. I remember when we were talking potential new manager there was someone (genuinely can't remember who) who was rubbishing Wilder and saying he didn't rate him. Just look at the job he's done at Boro since going in there. Easy to forget how poor they were under Warnock. Transforming Sheff Utd from League one perennials into a top half PL side with a reasonably small budget is also incredible, and it was just the conflicts at board level and trying to overhaul the squad in that second season that ruined them. Would be fascinating to see him back in the PL with Boro.
     
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  7. dennisboothstash

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    It would
    But it would be even better if Wednesday stayed down there forever and they were playing TWS year after next…and forever
     
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  8. SydneyTiger14

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    Dyche is fine but he's in the Allardyce/Pulis/Pardew mold of being able to motivate and organise a defence and keep a side in the league on reasonably small budgets, but don't think he'd be all that amazing with a bigger budget (see: Allardyce at Everton). He knows he has a good thing where he is where he can control every aspect of the club, and it's the reason he hasn't moved on.
     
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  9. Mckechnie Orange

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    He did some scouting on us for Tan when he was between jobs. McCann was aware and even mentioned speaking to him in one post match interview. Once he went to Boro Shota's name began circulating. Apparently.

    I was led to believe by a Sunderland contact around that time Rodwell was gonna be DOF and Acun had his own chief exec. Turned out the other way around about 2 months later than planned.

    Wilder for me isn't at Dyches level. Or Howe either. As much as I hate Colin ****er he's a level above too, along with woy.

    Best English manager in my lifetime was Sir Bobby.
     
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  10. Mckechnie Orange

    Mckechnie Orange Well-Known Member

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    You know there was a time around the late 90s I wished both the Grems and Scummy were in the conference...

    Sometimes if you wait long enough....
     
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  11. Chazz Rheinhold

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    Bob Paisley says hello
     
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  12. SydneyTiger14

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    I've never quite got the idea of hoping your rivals aren't in the same division as you. I'm sure after they got over the fun of it, Newcastle were a bit annoyed at no longer having two derbies a season to look forward to.

    I'd much rather Sheff Wed, Leeds, Sheff U, etc. were in the same division as us and we smashed them twice a season.
     
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  13. Mckechnie Orange

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    I'm standing behind the 'in my lifetime' caveat on that one.

    Paisley technically was but I was still biting ankles, licking table legs and taking pleasure from ****ting myself for attention and tits in those days.

    Some might say nowt much has changed....<cheers>
     
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    It just goes full circle. :emoticon-0100-smile
     
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  15. Mckechnie Orange

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    Allardyce at Everton?

    I'll raise you Moyes at West Ham.

    Technically Scottish but most of his playing career was in England and all but real sociedad his management career is entirely English too.

    Ferguson was a product of Scotland. I'm claiming Moyes as a product of a largely English career.
     
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    .... And Allardyce changed football forever.

    His influence with the promotion of sports-science and what he did at Bolton has changed the game worldwide.
     
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  17. SydneyTiger14

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    Moyes wasn't one of the managers I mentioned though, I don't think Dyche is as astute as Moyes. I guess we won't know unless he gets the chance, but West Ham weren't a 'big' job when Moyes went there either.
     
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  18. SydneyTiger14

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    Again, that's all well and good, and he did very well with his Bolton side, but I was pointing to Everton as an example of a job where he was given a bigger budget and the ability to move to a more expansive style of play and he struggled massively. I don't think it's as simple as saying "Give Dyche a bigger budget and watch him play beautiful football".
     
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  19. Mckechnie Orange

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    Wet spam are the most deluded club and ****ty set of fans in the country.

    But he saw something in a 25m deal a couple of years ago and they are where they are.
     
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  20. Mckechnie Orange

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    And Ferguson was 1 result from the sack in his first year too.

    That's the point. So much manager recruitment seems to be about immediate success. We saw with mccann and Taylor here, moyes at Everton, Ferguson at ManUre, Dyche at Burnleh, Howe at Burnleh and at Bournemouth....

    It's the reason football is still worth watching.

    A 'project' guy will always have an advantage at like a Spurs, where managers come and go in the first year.

    Mourinho was a reserve goalkeeper who was Bobby's translator at Barca.
     
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