New Head Coach

[The Norton Cat]

Not that often I disagree with you but I do on almost every aspect of your post

I think we've all become a little too likely to think the club are pandering to our whims when, in reality, they simply want progress and out of a league that costs millions just to stand still. This is clearly a massive appointment after everything that's happened and the club, like most Championship clubs, is desperate to get to the PL.

A bit of short lived 'buzz' isn't what we need, this is a serious business and the entire club rests on this appointment.

In my opinion we're trying to get away from ' competent' managers like Mowbray, Rosenior, Heckingbottom, etc. I can't imagine KLD, who can communicate in various languages, found it too impressive watching Mowbray shuffle into press conferences then moaning about all these foreign lads he can't get through to. It's not just the 'language barrier' in my opinion, it's a naturally blinkered outlook in methods, preparation, training, etc.

Hull have had 'success' by grinding out results, that's true, but they'd have just been another Sheff Utd in the PL ...

... I'd feel really flat if we appointed either of Sheff Utd's last two managers, or Hull's, time for a change imo.

Oh, I agree that the club are looking at a different type of manager to the usual. In fact, I think its something they have to do for the way they want to work. As a young manager, I'd class Rosenior as a British version of that. Because of the media interest Still is perhaps the most visible of the type they are/should be looking at and I think appointing him would be a statement.

 

[Gary Rowell world]

I think you're talking nonsense but we're all entitled to an opinion.

There are signs. Mags fa cup for one. And I will never buy the “ we knew nothing about it “ bollocks either.Went for the ££££ over fans

 

[Smug in Boots]

The club don't have to communicate anything to be fair, just because we buy a season card doesn't mean we get a seat around the directors table.

Very wise mate.

I'm as naive as any supporter but the fact remains we're paying for entertainment, not making an investment ...

... we believe we are because 'we invest our time, effort and money' but it's a grandiose idea.

It makes me laugh when football fans say they want their club back, nice ideal but nonsense if we're being honest.

 

[Smug in Boots]

There are signs. Mags fa cup for one. And I will never buy the “ we knew nothing about it “ bollocks either.Went for the ££££ over fans

You'll believe what you choose to believe and hold grudges for as long as you like ...

... personally I'm sick to death of hearing about the derby.

 

[The Redbaron]

There are signs. Mags fa cup for one. And I will never buy the “ we knew nothing about it “ bollocks either.Went for the ££££ over fans

That was the clearest one yet. Money over fans,

 

[Smug in Boots]

That was the clearest one yet. Money over fans,

How much money?

 

[The Redbaron]

No Manager for 3 months and no striker for over 17 months.... Not a good stat for Speakman/KLD.... Needs sorting out

The proof of intent or not by the owner will show up pretty soon.

 

[Daveynic]

I think Rosenior would be as good a choice, although I probably know less about him than I do about Still. I think Still, because of the hype, makes a statement to everyone who claims the club aren't ambitious.

It's interesting about Rooney going to Plymouth. His only real success, if you call his time at Derby a success given the club were a shambles when he was there, is that throughout that time Rosenior was his head coach. Once he left to go and explore his own management career, Rooney has floundered

 

[TonyG]

That was the clearest one yet. Money over fans,

The BCB was a massive error. They’ve accepted this but have a think for a minute, the club are running at a 9 million loss. It’s a business and we need to make money where-ever we can

 

[Smug in Boots]

It's interesting about Rooney going to Plymouth. His only real success, if you call his time at Derby a success given the club were a shambles when he was there, is that throughout that time Rosenior was his head coach. Once he left to go and explore his own management career, Rooney has floundered

Very true and he's starting to look like a flounder

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[Essayyeffcee]

It's interesting about Rooney going to Plymouth. His only real success, if you call his time at Derby a success given the club were a shambles when he was there, is that throughout that time Rosenior was his head coach. Once he left to go and explore his own management career, Rooney has floundered

You could've said the same about Brian Clough with Peter Taylor and Martin O'Neill and John Robertson. A good partnership is hard to replicate once it's no longer together

 

[Smug in Boots]

The BCB was a massive error. They’ve accepted this but have a think for a minute, the club are running at a 9 million loss. It’s a business and we need to make money where-ever we can

The allocation was out of our hands which meant, to an extent, the BCB was as well ...

... badly handled but not as bad as West Brom v Wolves which was ten times worse.

People will cling onto the derby for grim death, it suits them to imo.

 

[Dorset]

I'm sick to death of seeing the BCB episode being used as a stick to beat the club with.

It happened, get over it!

 

[Blond Bombshell]

An attacking style of football sounds great, what if it doesn't work. It did for Mowbray for one season mainly because he had Amad, didn't the next. I've got no idea why Will Still, fresh off finishing mid table demonstrating his attacking style is filling people with confidence he's the bloke for the job.

Will people continue to be excited about our attacking style in a couple of years if we've got nowhere near promotion while a green coach figures out the league and squad? Personally I'm of the opinion that points are what we need now not a philosophy.

That doesn't mean we have to hoof it and endure dire football. There's a balance to be found. People seem to be critical of Hull's style but their fans always seemed happy enough to me.

Agree with all this, also Heckingbottom needs some consideration for what he's achieved in this division

 

[The Redbaron]

The BCB was a massive error. They’ve accepted this but have a think for a minute, the club are running at a 9 million loss. It’s a business and we need to make money where-ever we can

They sold the club imo to make a few quid... Those who think this is all just going to fade into the back ground, well they are idiots. The BCB debacle is a lifetime stain on the club AND its supporters.

 

[Smug in Boots]

They sold the club imo to make a few quid... Those who think this is all just going to fade into the back ground, well they are idiots.

The BCB debacle is a lifetime stain on the club AND its supporters.

Only in the minds of a few people who probably don't go and will bravely continue not to go ...

... the season ticket renewals tell a different story.

And, how much money did they make in your opinion?

 

[The Redbaron]

Agree with all this, also Heckingbottom needs some consideration for what he's achieved in this division

If Heckingbottom is even considered then this club have no ambition whatsoever. Much like when they never built on promotion in 64, like they never built on the cup win in 73 or the promotion in 98/99. Its all, over the years been a litany of what ifs and what could have beens. This current situation appears to be just another of a long, long list of failures and missed opportunity because of Money or the lack thereof..

 

[Smug in Boots]

If Heckingbottom is even considered then this club have no ambition whatsoever. Much like when they never built on promotion in 64, like they never built on the cup win in 73 or the promotion in 98/99. Its all, over the years been a litany of what ifs and what could have beens. This current situation appears to be just another of a long, long list of failures and missed opportunity because of Money or the lack thereof..

Apart from a Wembley trophy, promotion to the Championship and the PL play-offs , in three seasons ....

... better than we managed in the previous decade.

 

[Essayyeffcee]

Apart from a Wembley trophy, promotion to the Championship and the PL play-offs , in three seasons ....

... better than we managed in the previous decade.

So apart from a Wembley trophy, promotion to the Championship and the PL play-offs - what have these owners ever done for us????

 

[Yorkie]

They sold the club imo to make a few quid... Those who think this is all just going to fade into the back ground, well they are idiots. The BCB debacle is a lifetime stain on the club AND its supporters.

An absolute joke of a comment. Lifetime stain my ars