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New Head Coach

Discussion in 'Sunderland' started by FellTop, Nov 26, 2023.

  1. Brainy Dose

    Brainy Dose Well-Known Member

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    Great post mate. Love hearing that stuff.
     
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  2. Brainy Dose

    Brainy Dose Well-Known Member

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    Agree with this. The next appointment of our first team coach is crucial to our future. If we get it right,the sky's the limit...if we get it wrong,we're going to be languishing in the depths for years with history repeating itself over and over. We are a roller-coaster of a club, with all of the unfulfilled potential in the world, and it's time for that cycle to be broken.
     
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  3. FellTop

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    Yeah spot on for me. Certainly the most important decision of KLDs time at the club. There is a tremendous platform with our academy producing some tremendous young talent. We have a basis of a first team, but with some obvious holes. Likely to bring in serious money, or at least have the option to. The coaching team next season can hopefully start and create a real momentum again, and take us back into the top 6 and challenging again. I am sure the right pick can do that, whoever they may be.
     
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  4. The Norton Cat

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    I'd agree that the coverage is probably more to do with his age and the route he's come to it through than him doing anything particularly groundbreaking.

    A couple of people have said that they thought he came across as arrogant. I see what they're getting at but that's not the impression I got. I thought he was very introverted and very intense. Almost anti-social and very academic. It made me think that he treats coaching and tactics as a problem solving issue, in an almost abstract way, if that makes sense. I could well be wrong but that's the vibe I get. I think that's very interesting but I'm also very aware that it probably has its limitations.

    I think KLD and Speakman might be enticed by that aspect of him. That could well be a failing on their part as a more well-rounded character is, like you say, probably what's required.

    I'm not going to say Still is my first choice but I do think it could be an exciting appointment. There are plenty of other people that have been mentioned that I'd be equally with.
     
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  5. SourPatch2

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    Just in terms of recruitment and data, if I'm looking for a goalscorer I want a player who hits the corners with 20% or more of his shots. Isak for example is running at around 30% this season. Clarke is just over 20% which is pretty exceptional for a winger without much goal scoring prowess before the last 18 months.

    It's not a 100% guarantee that the players running at these numbers definitely bring goals but it's definitely a good indicator of a good finisher.
     
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  6. Smug in Boots

    Smug in Boots Well-Known Member

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    I have to say I think it's good that there are virtually no leaks directly from the club ...

    ... apart from Heckingbottom's agent putting rumours out I've seen nothing.

    Even the lad on RTG, who seems to know things, hasn't a clue who we're talking to.
     
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  7. Disco down under

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    I agree to an extent but I think PR and using the press is a good way of showing vision and commitment, not to mention managing expectations.

    The absolute silence makes me think there is some naivity in the administration somewhere.

    This isn't KLD bashing. At all. The press officers/Comms/marketing people should be guiding his and I don't feel like they're doing a good job at all at the moment.

    Might just be my advertising/comms background speaking but I feel they are missing a big opportunity to get the fanbase on board with what should be seen as a very exciting project.

    Edit: this also has absolutely nothing to do with speakman.
     
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  8. Flash Gordon

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    I think common sense is to interview other candidates. We can have our preferred choice based on a CV and performance, maybe even from some anecdotal knowledge and passing conversations. But it would be negligent not to at least bring in a couple of others to interview and see how our preferred candidate matches up.

    If we've got it right, it will confirm what we already suspected and give us more confidence in the appointment.

    But outside chance he comes into the interview and blows it, then we're already down the road with other candidates.
     
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  9. Pure River Slut

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    Are we happy to keep Dodds now who can organise a defence ?
     
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  10. smithy in nl

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    no
     
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  11. TopCat.

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    ...until the end of the season
     
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  12. Iain

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    Moyes was advised to keep Phelan on at Man Utd, he was told he would do all the **** stuff, dealing with the players day to day as that's what they were used to.
    Instead he got rid and apparently a lot of the senior players didn't take to him.
    Thought he was to hands on and his training very basic
     
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  13. Iain

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    Speakman has already stated the new bloke can bring in his own assistant(s) and I don't think I'd ever want to change our goalkeeping coach, over the years the ones we've had have been spot on. Other than the championship relegation season but I would blame the coaches for that
     
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  16. Disco down under

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    Doesn't seem like a very in depth piece of reporting. I'm going to chalk it up to click bait for now. Would be excited by Still though.

    I'm actually at the stage where I don't really have a specific hope for the new manager other than for our more negative fans to get on board with it.

    I'd take ****ing warlock if it got people on board.
     
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  17. flandersmackem

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    I'm just pleased the latest news seems to be veering away from Heckingbottom who I really don't think is any improvement on Mowbray and defiantly not Beale
     
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  18. Smug in Boots

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    Mowbray's popularity and qualities seemed to double once he was sacked tbh.
     
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  20. Iain

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    I just hope whoever we are going to appoint will happen as soon as they can.
    As every coach that gets mentioned is nailed on as the next coach and is a load of **** showing the club have no ambition.
    Just last week Nixon reported that it could be heckingbottom some of our fans take this as gospel.
     
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