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sandancer12 said:
I live in Scotland and nobody i know, and i mean nobody, thinks he did a good job at Rangers.

That said, his win record is 70% (yes i know its a poor league) and lost only 8/43.

The biggest problem he had up here was the recruitment in the summer was a shambles and his playing style was not clear.

Strange appt but he has a heck of a good squad already here with us (apart from up top)

We will see how good an actual coach he is
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It's quite possible that Rangers weren't as far advanced in the development of their "model" as we are or their recruitment team aren't as skilled as ours. All this outpouring of anger is bizarre

Firstly, we don't know the reasons Mowbray was sacked and secondly talk of "ambition" and "markers" are just for the fanbase. The owners will want someone who they believe can take us forward and work within the model. Pretty sure Beale had a load of youngsters at QPR.

It's the social media side where people are saying we only went for the cheap option and the owners have no ambition that I cannot abide. Does anyone really think that KLD has sat down and said "**** it, just get someone cheap. I'm not bothered if we get promoted"?

Since the kid has come in, we've won at Wembley for first time in 2 generations, gotten promoted (another Wembley win), finished 6th in our first season and recruited a team full of exciting young players that are a match for almost any team in the division, but this apparent appointment of Beale has undone all of that good work and we are now doomed? I just don't get it - people SO quick to jump on and attack the club.
 
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TopCat_ said:
It's quite possible that Rangers weren't as far advanced in the development of their "model" as we are or their recruitment team aren't as skilled as ours. All this outpouring of anger is bizarre

Firstly, we don't know the reasons Mowbray was sacked and secondly talk of "ambition" and "markers" are just for the fanbase. The owners will want someone who they believe can take us forward and work within the model. Pretty sure Beale had a load of youngsters at QPR.

It's the social media side where people are saying we only went for the cheap option and the owners have no ambition that I cannot abide. Does anyone really think that KLD has sat down and said "**** it, just get someone cheap. I'm not bothered if we get promoted"?

Since the kid has come in, we've won at Wembley for first time in 2 generations, gotten promoted (another Wembley win), finished 6th in our first season and recruited a team full of exciting young players that are a match for almost any team in the division, but this apparent appointment of Beale has undone all of that good work and we are now doomed? I just don't get it - people SO quick to jump on and attack the club.
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All of this
 
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I kinda want it announced now so that we can all just do what we can to get behind it. It’s clearly happening. No amount of social media uproar is going to change it (and nor should it - indeed I’d lose a lot of faith in them if they changed their mind on something like this based off fan opinion).

But let’s just get it announced so that we can normalise it and get on with the season.
 
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Southern A said:
I kinda want it announced now so that we can all just do what we can to get behind it. It’s clearly happening. No amount of social media uproar is going to change it (and nor should it - indeed I’d lose a lot of faith in them if they changed their mind on something like this based off fan opinion).

But let’s just get it announced so that we can normalise it and get on with the season.
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Yeah. Get it done, win some game and get the nay-sayers to pipe down
 
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WorkyTicketFTM said:
I didn’t mean you specifically I mean the fanbase in general when you said there’s not a positive comment anywhere.

I’m confident Beale will be better than TM here. People are forgetting how highly rated he was/is. A lot of other coaches and former players speak very highly of him. I’m normally the most miserable b*stard going but I don’t think this is worse than having Mowbray or Dodds personally. Not quite the excitement of Will Still though.
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Yes, a lot of people have said some big things about his coaching. Almost everyone who has worked with him as a coach says them.

But he's the main man here, and apart from a brief flurry at QPR has hasn't done much as a main man anywhere.

And as with others, I was hearing stuff about him being out of his depth and disliked at Rangers before he was sacked. There could be a lot of reasons for that though.

But he's the guy it looks like so good luck to him. At least there is no expectation management needed!
 
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Southern A said:
I kinda want it announced now so that we can all just do what we can to get behind it. It’s clearly happening. No amount of social media uproar is going to change it (and nor should it - indeed I’d lose a lot of faith in them if they changed their mind on something like this based off fan opinion).

But let’s just get it announced so that we can normalise it and get on with the season.
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Yep. Their call. Let's hope it works.
 
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Southern A said:
I kinda want it announced now so that we can all just do what we can to get behind it. It’s clearly happening. No amount of social media uproar is going to change it (and nor should it - indeed I’d lose a lot of faith in them if they changed their mind on something like this based off fan opinion).

But let’s just get it announced so that we can normalise it and get on with the season.
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Exactly. The last thing we’d want is for the club to pull out because of social media reaction.

if it’s happening let’s just get it done. Wow betide speakman it it all goes wrong though but I have a funny feeling he might be a match for our setup.

One thing I really want is for Dodds to getting himself sorted as a head coach by being an assistant though and hopefully it happens under Beale.
 
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TopCat_ said:
It's quite possible that Rangers weren't as far advanced in the development of their "model" as we are or their recruitment team aren't as skilled as ours. All this outpouring of anger is bizarre

Firstly, we don't know the reasons Mowbray was sacked and secondly talk of "ambition" and "markers" are just for the fanbase. The owners will want someone who they believe can take us forward and work within the model. Pretty sure Beale had a load of youngsters at QPR.

It's the social media side where people are saying we only went for the cheap option and the owners have no ambition that I cannot abide. Does anyone really think that KLD has sat down and said "**** it, just get someone cheap. I'm not bothered if we get promoted"?

Since the kid has come in, we've won at Wembley for first time in 2 generations, gotten promoted (another Wembley win), finished 6th in our first season and recruited a team full of exciting young players that are a match for almost any team in the division, but this apparent appointment of Beale has undone all of that good work and we are now doomed? I just don't get it - people SO quick to jump on and attack the club.
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Good post mate
I was mainly reflecting on his reputation here which is not good

He must be a good coach to be employed by Chelsea Liverpool Rangers and Villa in a coaching role

he has a helluva squad here, let’s see what he can do on the training pitch
 
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Southern A said:
I kinda want it announced now so that we can all just do what we can to get behind it. It’s clearly happening. No amount of social media uproar is going to change it (and nor should it - indeed I’d lose a lot of faith in them if they changed their mind on something like this based off fan opinion).

But let’s just get it announced so that we can normalise it and get on with the season.
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Try and keep an open mind everyone. One unsuccessful spell as manager doesn't necessarily mean you are useless. People make mistakes and have difficult moments in their careers and come back. The environment here might be suited to him. He might be brilliant. Being French or Scandinavian doesn't guarantee success either. Don't listen to the ****ers on that WMS podcast as I'm sure they will be spouting their usual negative crap on Monday
They've been negative constantly in last 18 months but we've recruited some incredible players, we've played some amazing footy and built a team from nothing really. I find it hard to believe speakman and kld haven't done due diligence on beale..
 
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About 20 posts back someone put a page about Beale and his coaching career. It was fairly promising. He won't have a say on transfers, we won't be buying 'his players' if he has any. He will be head coach. And if he's a good a coach as his record suggests all is well. And breathe........
 
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Here's a thought I'll put out there, I could be miles off but maybe they brought Beale in to work with Dodds after the 2 positive results rather than Beale bringing in a number 2 like Mowbray did with Venus. With Dodds showing how technically astute he is but in the interviews he's taken part in it seems like he didn't quite fancy the top job just yet and with him and maybe Speakman didn't want to force him into something he wasn't sure about, this is the compromise
 
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Essayyeffcee said:
Here's a thought I'll put out there, I could be miles off but maybe they brought Beale in to work with Dodds after the 2 positive results rather than Beale bringing in a number 2 like Mowbray did with Venus. With Dodds showing how technically astute he is but in the interviews he's taken part in it seems like he didn't quite fancy the top job just yet and with him and maybe Speakman didn't want to force him into something he wasn't sure about, this is the compromise
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I like your thinking.
 
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