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New Coach if the trigger is pulled

Discussion in 'Sunderland' started by Makemstine Roger, Nov 3, 2021.

  1. clockstander

    clockstander Well-Known Member

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    And Its week after week as you say, its a balance of course it is , and this is a forum to put your take on the game forward, I keep banging on about Younger and it may be that he is not as good as those chosen and persevered with, but under the right circumstances he should be given a chance, such chances have been spurned even when obvious. And thats a good shout on Alves by the way, we have a good crop of understudies that should be tried, maybe more than we have seen so far.
     
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  2. rooch 3

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    I got told I was wrong three games into Moyes reign, look how that turned out.
     
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  3. clockstander

    clockstander Well-Known Member

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    Weaver and Thirwell are at Harrogate as manager and assistant manager.
     
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  4. The Norton Cat

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    Oh right! That's maybe why I don't recall Thirlwell on it that much. I've just looked it up and the others were Neil Smith at Bromley, John Still and Hakan Hayrettin at Maidstone Utd, Ben Strevens at Eastleigh, and Craig Hignett when he was at Hartlepool.
     
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  5. Confucius

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    Different documentary then, I thought you meant "Proud to be Town"

    https://www.bt.com/sport/football/features/proud-to-be-town-bt-sport-film-harrogate-town
     
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  6. The Norton Cat

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  7. Mackem-Tiz

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    LJ has gone from putting all the subs on together in one go to the total opposite.
    Obviously somewhere in the middle is needed. Especially when continually getting walloped.
    I think the main problem is confidence...or lack of with regards to the players. Alot of them are too young and haven't been through this before. Therefore it's the managers job to take one or 2 out of the line of fire for now cos it won't help them by continually getting hammered.
     
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  8. sheepman

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    This is the big question.
    Bring in an old name to get us promoted or stick with the new structure and program.
    Personally I think we should push on with a radical backroom structure where LJ is just another cog in the wheel
    revamp the first team coaching structure and bring in some coaching experience to help / complement LJ
    Loved how Brentford brought in Thomas Frank as an assistant coach and now he's managing in the Prem.
    If their data models can identify up and coming new players then they should be able to do the same for coaches.

    Only problem with this is it might take a couple of years to get it right
     
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  9. Gil T Azell

    Gil T Azell Well-Known Member

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    At this moment in time I do not believe Thirls would come. Personal reasons not football.
     
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  10. FellTop

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    Cheers fellas, but I am just a normal bloke who loves footy like everyone else on here and am no expert. To prove that many moons ago watching Southend at Roker i confidently predicted Brett Angel would be better than Collymore <laugh><laugh>

    The great thing about posting here is the different opinions and the beauty of an opinion is it cant be wrong.
     
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  11. ab65

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    I fear for Johnson if we get beat a la Pompey/Rotherham/Sheff Wed in a home game against Ipswich. Not sure that he survives that scenario.

    I've not been convinced by him throughout his time here but was enjoying the football in matches I'd seen this season before the Pompey game even though his tendency to try and sit on the lead made for a nervy last 15 mins or so in most of them.

    What may help him is the apparent lack of an available alternative who would be prepared to work within the current structure who would more or less guarantee promotion. Don't see Wilder being prepared to come down to League 1 or have other people buying his players for him and I'm not convinced in him if truth be told.

    I hope he uses these cup games wisely and rests Stewart in particular and has a look at the likes of Younger, Alves, Taylor, Kachosa, Dyce, Wearne and Harris.

    Hope we can come fback after the international break fresher and focussed so that we can avoid another mid season reshuffle. That said he needs to get positive results in the league quickly or KLD will be left with no choice.
     
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    Hope we can come fresher and focussed so that we can avoid another mid season reshuffle. That said he needs to get positive results in the league quickly or KLD will be left with no choice.
     
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  13. FellTop

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    Was sat with a forest and coventry fan at work today talking footy. They asked why the wheels had fallen off (their words). I said I thought it was a confidence thing in a youngish team but the forest fan said he thought our manager wasnt up to much. We talked about forest have bounced under Cooper and he said it is the same players but they look different under a new manager - more energy was his words. The cov fan said there had been crap periods under Robins when they wondered what he was doing but now they wouldnt swap him and he is the heartbeat of their club. Not sure what it means but you can stick or twist and be right I suppose. I know I would take Robins over Hughton though.
     
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  14. Makemstine Roger

    Makemstine Roger Well-Known Member

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    yet another nice post mate
     
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  15. monty987

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    Jurgen klinsman ! brilliant, Chris wilder would be sensible, nice bloke and at our level managers like Nuno would probably turn us down, it is the players not the manager though, Eddie howe going to the mags, what happened to Conti lol. I want big sam back though.
     
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  16. Gordon Armstrong

    Gordon Armstrong Just another S.A.F.C. fan
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    It is generally believed that talking with your mouth full is rude.

    Personally, I find that talking with your head empty is much worse :emoticon-0105-wink:
     
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  17. TopCat.

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    I think Ipswich could be a turning point. 3 defeats in a row isn't great, but 2 of them were away games against strong teams and almost forgivable. If we start losing home games then I think the chop might come. Maybe not as soon as Ipswich but not long after. Our home form was masking our weaknesses away from home...
     
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  18. Makemstine Roger

    Makemstine Roger Well-Known Member

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    not long to wait now
     
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  19. Rhys Lincoln

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    My podcast sunderland top dogs did a interview with paul thirlwell not long ago should check it out
     
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