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Neville just said on sky QPR have the quality players like Newcastle but have not performed.

Do you agree as many have said on here we don't have the quality.

I watched Palace yesterday and they had 3 ex-QPR players in their team, Puncheon, Delaney and Mutch.and they are staying up. However they do have some fast front players.
 
I have repeatedly said that a better coach would have kept our squad up (This means Redknapp AND Ramsey).
 
On paper we have a squad more than capable of surviving in this league, but as we all know football is not played on paper!
 
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The margins are small, but I think (as a neutral) you've:

a) lacked some younger players in the team to do some running. Yes, there are some players with quality, but the age of many is too high. and

b) been too weak defensively. Caulker hasn't been a success, Rio hasn't obviously. The others did well at Championship level, but are too old/slow for PL. 61 goals conceded is 15 worse than WBA, 11 worse than Sunderland (who conceded 8 v Soton) and Villa. It's not hard to see where points have been lost, especially away.
 
TWGWTDT said:
Well we will never know
Ramsey will certainly prove you wrong IMO clearly the best our club has had in a while
i would vote him in for 3 years
I hope he becomes a legend at QPR
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You're right, we'll never know. Opinions eh?
As for Ramsey proving me wrong, if he's our manager next season, he gets a clean slate as far as I'm concerned. He is quoted as having said that he likes to play a passing game. Hopefully he will, as there has been precious little sign of it to date.
 
littleDinosaurLuke said:
The margins are small, but I think (as a neutral) you've:

a) lacked some younger players in the team to do some running. Yes, there are some players with quality, but the age of many is too high. and

b) been too weak defensively. Caulker hasn't been a success, Rio hasn't obviously. The others did well at Championship level, but are too old/slow for PL. 61 goals conceded is 15 worse than WBA, 11 worse than Sunderland (who conceded 8 v Soton) and Villa. It's not hard to see where points have been lost, especially away.
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Not sure I can disagree with that. Caulker for some reason has been a real disappointment, Dunne & Hill no longer have any pace especially when they get turned.
 
littleDinosaurLuke said:
The margins are small, but I think (as a neutral) you've:

a) lacked some younger players in the team to do some running. Yes, there are some players with quality, but the age of many is too high. and

b) been too weak defensively. Caulker hasn't been a success, Rio hasn't obviously. The others did well at Championship level, but are too old/slow for PL. 61 goals conceded is 15 worse than WBA, 11 worse than Sunderland (who conceded 8 v Soton) and Villa. It's not hard to see where points have been lost, especially away.
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The defence was badly exposed for virtually the entire season, playing a very open 4-4-2.
 
On the evidence of my eyes, with the caveat that I clearly know very little if anything about football, it's ****ing obvious that we don't have the quality. Once Faurlin got injured we had no one who could consistently pass the ball accurately, quickly and positively in central midfield. No one has consistently shown quality this season, in my opinion, let alone the 7 or 8 you need to be at top form all the time to survive in this league.
 
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The commentator in finnish tv wondered how on earth can Clint Hill play in some premier league teams line up in the premier league.......
 
I don't think we've had the quality needed especially defensively, and recently so many players have been missing we haven't had enough going forward either, plus we were always short once Remy had gone. That we didn't have that quality, and didn't even compete in many away games is very much down to Harry, and bad decisions being made above him. Like not moving the bullshytter out last summer, and bringing in needed quality players in the summer, and then January..
 
sb_73 said:
On the evidence of my eyes, with the caveat that I clearly know very little if anything about football, it's ****ing obvious that we don't have the quality. Once Faurlin got injured we had no one who could consistently pass the ball accurately, quickly and positively in central midfield. No one has consistently shown quality this season, in my opinion, let alone the 7 or 8 you need to be at top form all the time to survive in this league.
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I disagree, but there's no point in continuing to repeat myself.
 
littleDinosaurLuke said:
The margins are small, but I think (as a neutral) you've:

a) lacked some younger players in the team to do some running. Yes, there are some players with quality, but the age of many is too high. and

b) been too weak defensively. Caulker hasn't been a success, Rio hasn't obviously. The others did well at Championship level, but are too old/slow for PL. 61 goals conceded is 15 worse than WBA, 11 worse than Sunderland (who conceded 8 v Soton) and Villa. It's not hard to see where points have been lost, especially away.
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You can't argue that our defence hasn't been up to it collectively, although Green did get called up for England. I don't think the midfield have helped tho. Not attacking (weirdly, we've done OK at that), but controlling the game. We have never seemed to be able to keep the ball, never seemed to have 50% or more of possession. I think that's half the reason we've let in so many late goals. We've invited other teams to attack again and again and again, until eventually they got through.
 
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With a couple of defenders and another decent striker on paper we would be a fairly solid mid/lower mid table team. Ramsey may come good in the end but I have seen absolutely nothing so far in him to suggest that he is a decent manager, he's been worse then Rednapp IMO and I think we would probably have been better off if he had stayed to the end of the season.
 
On other threads I can't understand that some are saying keep Dunne, Hill and Zamora next year. Even in the championship we need younger players for the future. In my opinion the oldies and not bringing in another striker to replace Remy are two big factors why we have struggled.
 
The only person I would try and keep is Barton. I know he has problems but he is commuted to the team and always gives 100%.
 
As Stan rightly says, it is simply lack of quality that has done us. The inability to retain possession, a problem that has dogged us for years, that inevitably puts pressure on the midfield and defence and ultimately results in us conceding.

It's also the reason we concede so many late goals, by inviting pressure on our tiring defenders they eventually make mistakes which lead to us losing so many goals in that last quarter hour...
 
We have had a whole season of this. It's the defensive, the midfield, we don't score enough..It is everything, and through that confidence goes....Charlie misses a penalty, Ned makes a rash challenge.

So we are going down because we were not good enough for long enough to give ourselves the confidence to get out of it.
 
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