Neil Lennon slashed.......

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Biggus Diccus said:
I don't want him to go anywhere just yet - plus, whoever replaces Lennon will get zero credit for any domestic success and, unless he matches the frankly amazing results in Europe this season, will be deemed a failure (by idiots, largely).

A quick scan of some Evertonians tweets pretty much proves how insular fans of the English Premier League are.

"I don't want Lennon, he's achieved nothing, I want Martinez"

Seriously, most of them think Martinez avoiding the drop a couple of times is better than re-building a ****e squad and getting to the last 16 in the CL within 2 years with **** all money.

Idiots don't deserve proper managers.

They should stick to having all the brilliant English managers they have
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A nice concise summary Bib <ok>
 
Nah, we had Helsinki and Helsingborgs in the qualifiers.

3 rounds next season. The SPL is ranked 26th in Europe or something <laugh>
 
http://sport.stv.tv/football/224721...-three-rounds-of-champions-league-qualifiers/

Celtic are guaranteed to be seeded for all three of their potential fixtures in qualifying for the 2013/14 Champions League.

The Scottish Premier League winners will enter next season&#8217;s competition at the second qualifying round stage, having to negotiate three rounds to again reach the group phase.

Of the sides already qualified, only BATE Borisov, who will also enter at the second qualifying round, will have a higher coefficient.

Should Celtic progress past the first phase, only Basel can overtake them in the coefficient stakes in either the third qualifying or play-off rounds. In effect, that would only move the Scottish side down to third seeds.

Should either Grasshopper, St. Gallen or Sion triumph in the Swiss league this season, Celtic would be second seeds for every round of the qualifying stage they participate in.

Potential second qualifying round opponents

As leagues around Europe reach their climax, Celtic&#8217;s potential opponents in the second qualifying round are becoming clearer.

Definite non-seeds already qualified for the competition are Ireland&#8217;s Sligo Rovers, Shakhtyor Karaganda from Kazakhstan, Skenderbeu Korce from Albania, Northern Irish champions Cliftonville, Latvia&#8217;s Daugava Daugavpils and Estonian side Kalju Nomme.

Also guaranteed to be non-seeds, and potential opponents for Celtic, are the champions from Malta and Montenegro.

With six seeded positions still up for grabs, there are a number of clubs yet to find out whether they will avoid Celtic, BATE Borisov, Steaua Bucharest and Dinamo Zagreb, to name but a few of the guaranteed seeds.

Depending on the results from other leagues, Celtic could face Serbian, Bosnian, Slovenian, Azerbaijani, Slovakia, Hungarian, Bulgarian, Moldovan, Macedonian or opposition from Luxembourg.

League champions also awaiting news on their potential seeding for the second qualifying round are Welsh side The New Saints, Dinamo Tbilisi from Georgia and Icelandic club FH Hafnarfjardar.

Regionalisation has previously been used at this stage to place teams into pots prior to the draw, thus reducing the number of potential opponents.

In 2012/13, UEFA split the draw into three regionalised groups. By and large, this attempted to place clubs into an south-eastern European set, a northern European set and an eastern European set.

Working off the same principle for 2013/14, Celtic&#8217;s potential opponents would likely be drawn from Iceland, Northern Ireland, Republic of Ireland, Wales and another one or two northern European nations, such as Estonia, Faroe Islands, Latvia and Luxembourg, depending on the final seeding placement.

Third qualifying round

Three teams will join the 17 winners from the previous round at this stage. Cypriot champions APOEL Nicosia enter as seeds. The champions of Austria and Switzerland will also enter but only certain clubs would be guaranteed seeds.

As previously stated, Basel would move above Celtic in the seedings at this stage. Qualification for Sion or Grasshopper would only see them seeded depending on the progression of other clubs, while St. Gallen would almost certainly be non-seeds.

From Austria, both Austria Vienna and Salzburg are vying for the title and either would be a guaranteed seed in the third qualifying round.

Should they progress, Celtic would be seeded. In terms of potential opposition, Neil Lennon&#8217;s side could be paired with Molde FK or HJK Helsinki, seeds in the qualifying round, depending on the qualification and progression of other sides.

In previous years, the 20 clubs have been split into two pots of 10 prior to the draw, although these are not typically regionalised.

Play-off round

The ten winners from the third qualifying round move on to this stage. No other teams enter the competition.

Celtic, should they progress, would at worst be the third of five seeded clubs.

Assuming all seeds make this stage, potential opponents could include previous seeds such as Dinamo Zagreb, Maccabi Tel-Aviv or the champion club from Austria.

Group stage seeding

Looking further ahead, a second successive season in the group stages could see Celtic in either pot three or four for the draw.

Lennon&#8217;s side&#8217;s position would be determined by which clubs qualify through spots yet to be determined from Belgium, France and Spain, as well as the progression of teams from the qualifying round stage on both the champions and non-champions.

The picture will become clearer when all qualified teams from each competing nation are known later this month.
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You've got to hand it to that Grant Russell guy at STV - he's a proper football geek - qualified ref and a bit of an expert on the rulebooks.
 
BigAudioDynamite said:
F#ck Everton! Winning a treble is progress and that's exactly what the man will do.

Cant see one good reason to believe any of this pish.
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Dont think it's believing anything ... it's all specualtion. That's what happends when you excel.

A treble and more champiosn league football - progress <ok>

But managing, on a weekly basis, at a higher level - tempting?
 
Nae money at Everton and a manager who had you in the top 6 for 10 years with **** all money - they will have high expectations.
 
BEST BUYS
NIGEL MARTYN, £500,000 LEEDS, September 2003
Moyes classed the goalkeeper as his best buy and Martyn won the club's player of the year award in his first season. He made 100 appearances, 99 starts, in three years.
TIM CAHILL, £1.5million, MILLWALL, July 2004
The Australia international would run Martyn close for Moyes' top signing. He scored 68 goals in 278 appearances and was the driving force in midfield.
MIKEL ARTETA, £2million, REAL SOCIEDAD, July 2005
The Spaniard thrived as the significant creative element in Everton's midfield after an unhappy spell at Rangers previously. Was player of the year twice in six years before joining Arsenal for a reported £10million.
PHIL JAGIELKA, £4million, SHEFFIELD UNITED, July 2007
The centre-back's performances this season have been probably the best since he arrived and he has now assumed leadership responsibilities, taking the armband from the departing Phil Neville.
LEIGHTON BAINES, £6million, WIGAN, AUGUST 2007
Moyes may have paid out a significant sum for the left-back but it cannot be argued he has not got value for money. Consistency of Baines' form has been unrivalled during his time at Everton.
WORST BUYS
PER KROLDRUP, £5million, UDINESE, June 2005
Spending heavily on a full-back does not always guarantee success, as Moyes found out with the Danish defender who made just two appearances before being sold to Fiorentina the following summer.
ANDY VAN DER MEYDE, £2million, INTER MILAN, AUGUST 2005
The Holland international arrived aged 25 with supposedly his best years ahead of him but he made just 26 appearances in four years after issues with his attitude and unhappiness on Merseyside.
JAMES BEATTIE, £6million, SOUTHAMPTON, January 2005
After a decent spell on the south coast Moyes saw Beattie, an England
international, as the man to lead his forward line but his goals-to-game ratio did not live up to his transfer fee with just 15 in 86 matches over two and a half years.
SIMON DAVIES, £4million, TOTTENHAM, MAY 2005
The midfielder had a disappointing first season and lasted just six months of the next campaign before being offloaded to Fulham.
RICHARD WRIGHT, £3.5million, ARSENAL, July 2002
 
BigAudioDynamite said:
Lenny says "no thanks"

Pud, you think managing everton is a higher level?

Get with the programme mate ffs! Why is being an also ran in another country a higher level?
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There's two arguements to be had...

I think week in week out, he's be managing overall at a higher level IF he went to Everton.

Celtic are a bigger club but the SPL is miles behind the EPL. Celtic won the league at a canter.

On a weekly basis, domestically, he would be managing at a higher more competitive level.

However, best he can get at Everton is Europa League ... miles behind the Champions League. So, it depends what he wants - more of a challenge weekly or to face the elite for 6 to 8 games a season (or even go one further to the quarters).
 
Celtic's Neil Lennon has sought to cool speculation linking him with the Everton managerial vacancy.

The 41-year-old has been linked with the hot seat following confirmation of David Moyes's impending switch to Manchester United.

Lennon said: "That's all it is, speculation. I've got a great support, group of players and I'm happy here.

"We're already looking at Champions League preparation and bringing in new players."


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Would have been stupid to leave, guaranteed silverware for a good few years, why go to Everton? Celtic are a much bigger club, much bigger support, more prestigious even if we play in a ****e league.

Would have to have been insane to leave just now.

My 20/1 Malky is looking much better now.
 
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