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Nathan Jones sacked as Saints er....."manager"

Discussion in 'Southampton' started by Osvaldorama, Jan 4, 2023.

  1. garysfc

    garysfc Well-Known Member

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    Hey, we’re all lil bit different. Good job I don’t have a cat!
     
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  2. The 83rd Minute

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    Building trust and honesty will open up many doors; they are the two key elements of any success.
    The problem for Nathan Jones has been that he can’t follow through with what he says he is going to do.
    Jones can’t break down that barrier of being a Championship manager among PL players.
    In order to break through that wall, Jones had to prove to players that he could do what he says he can do, all the time, every time.
    The only way Jones could have proven his character was to back up his words, and if he did, players would know he is a person they can work with and count on. Nathan Jones is a unique football manager; he has none of those skills.
     
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  3. Ronnie Hotdog (MLsfc)

    Ronnie Hotdog (MLsfc) Well-Known Member

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    If Jones wins 5 out of 6 then he 100% wins fans back. Ultimately, we are as fickle as the rest of the footballing world and results tell all.
     
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  4. RSS

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    For **** sake. If he is going about his role as normal then he isn't going before the Wolves game. Utterly clueless. I don't want us to lose a PL game, not least because we have precious few left. But if we somehow beat Wolves under Jones, even if it's another ****e performance and we get lucky, he stays? Then what? Is his position then reviewed after every game? Does one win buy him another 6 games or until the end of the season despite everything we've seen and everthing he's said and the fractured toxic club that we've become inside and out under his reign. ****ing inept management from SR.
     
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  5. SaintsFan86

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    No, he won't. I will never accept NJ.
     
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  6. garysfc

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    Just caught up ….. we are well & truly ****ed on every angle. He won’t turn it around, he won’t save us. We are guaranteed a vile atmosphere for the rest of the season & more of his verbal ****e. OmF’ingG. So depressing.
     
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  7. Saints Fan4Life

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    The only silver lining I can see, is if they won't sack Jones until we have a new manager lined up. But the damage that could cause could be fatal.
     
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  8. tomw24

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    Nah, would much rather Selles was put in charge for Saturday.
     
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  9. ChilcoSaint

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    At this point I am thinking the unthinkable. If relegation is the price for SR sacking Jones, would it be worth it? I know Libby would agree, but what do others think?
     
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  10. Saints Fan4Life

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    Oh, absolutely 100%, just trying to think of reasons why they aren't sacking him today <laugh>
     
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  11. Le Tissier's Laces

    Le Tissier's Laces Well-Known Member

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    Ankersen seems to be a **** Cortese. All of the ego, but none of the balls.
     
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  12. Osvaldorama

    Osvaldorama Well-Known Member

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    I personally think relegation would be awful.

    I pray that NJ can turn it around, and that Rasmus has spotted something that literally everyone else has missed
     
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  13. manxsaint

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    Spotted the flying pigs!!!
     
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  14. San Tejón

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    It will be an interesting team sheet Saturday, if Napoleon is still in charge.
    Will those who have let him know that they don’t rate him be picked, even if they are the best choices, or will his “pride” stop him from selecting them.
     
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  15. Pelletron

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    This seems way too far gone to come back from now. Is a case now of managing it internally, but can't see Jones coming back from this - a situation now of his own making. But as referred to, under the type of pressure he's facing, you have to be a manager with some top PR skills to come out smiling and calm from this run, and not have the state of your mental health start to implode publicly.

    I'm actually quite curious to see what he does if he's still here for Wolves - if it is to be pure Jonesball, curious to see how/if it works.

    Apart from ridiculous calls for Poch, who is so far out of our league to be a preposterous shout, and calls for nonsense charlatans such as AVB, who seemingly still has some fooled that he is a decent PL manager, there are some good options available - I'd fancy Bruno Lage, I think, just because he was apparently once on our watchlist, so must be some sort of thinking behind that. Would be happy with Nuno too.
     
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  16. saintrichie123

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    If/ when we go down, we will end up never going back up I fear.
     
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  17. tomw24

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    Based on what? A lot of teams who go down come straight back up again.
     
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  18. doritoharv

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    If Rasmus persists and things continue to freefall, he'll be putting his own job and reputation at risk. I can't see how Dragan would put up with it as it in turn makes him look foolish. Jones has lost the players, the fans (not that he ever really had them), the journalists close to the club and is also becoming a laughing stock among the wider footballing community. It would take a monumental turn around to haul it all back.
     
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  19. San Tejón

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    As I have said in a couple of comments before, if we are going long ball then the forward players need to buy into that way of playing by running beyond Tall Paul for flick ons.
    It almost got us a goal on Saturday when Theo anticipated the flick and got in ahead of the defender, but shot against the keeper, with Che being Che and getting the follow up header off target.
    I can see us getting chances if we play Adarma and Sulemana in narrow positions to make the runs, utilising their pace.
    Not saying that I would want that to be our only method of attack, but we’re not creating much/anything with other methods.
     
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  20. Saintmagic

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    Relegation is a big unknown as we would lose a lot of players. But if you look at sides who have gone down in more recent years, Fulham/Norwich/Watford bounce back immediately. Burnley walking the league this year, Sheff U had a year or two but are now looking likely to come back up. Are we really in a worse position than any of them when they went down?

    It’s not the same as 5/10 years ago when it was very common for relegated teams to struggle. The issue is coming back and staying up, rather than yo-yoing
     
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