So I'm a dumb bagwearing bellend? Just because you hold an opinion quite different to that of other people it doesn't make you dumb or ignorant. My heart goes out to all the families of those who did die, they were victims of a disgraceful act of terrorism regardless of who it was that caused it. That much doesn't change. To say its disrespectful to believe that it was an inside job doesn't make sense at all.
Doesn't make sense? Me and my family have the displeasure of knowing someone who had a loved one die that day, and if anyone ever starts talking about these conspiracies, let me assure you that you'll be met with a very angry and upset reaction. You think thats what these people want to hear every year, that some loon in a caravan in the Arizona desert has this theory that because the building didn't fall in a way that logic suggests (bad architecture caused that) that it must be an inside job? The victims family/friends deserve to mourn the dead and move on. Not for it to be dragged up and present ideas that are unfounded and re-open old wounds. NE was getting angry response's from American LFC fans, and then proceeds to tell people that they take it the wrong way? Nope, doesn't sit well with me. He should have kept his mouth shut.
WWOCB I assume that you are a student and for that reason have little or no common sense and are angry at the world/UK/Sainsbury's/Plumbers etc. If you explain your theory as to how and why a goverment would attack it own people and those of its closest ally with evidence and sensible argument then assuming I have not wet my pants I will shoot any argument you have down in flames. Time to put up or shut up. Unlike Nathan 'I need to be heard' Ecclescake you can show the world that your not in need of attention.
There is some shady facts about 11-9 that have not been answered. Like Building 7 (that Silverstein said "we had to pull it"). And the fact that NORAD was stood down, on Presidential order as they was running simulations that planes were going to hit the World Trade Centre. The reason why Conspiracies exist is that they don't release information about the attacks. And the government would rather the conspiracy to continue as it's better than the truth. Similarly to Roswell. Alien didn't crash, it was just better to let that rumour circulate rather than tell the nation that they were listening into the Russians by using Super Secret balloons. Something dodgy happened. And we do need answers. That's all! Maybe the government new about pre-before, and chose not to act. And why no-one is questioning the Saudi Arabians, goes beyond belief, considering they Funded it, and majority of the hijackers were Saudi's.
I personally believe that the US government knew that something sinister was afoot, but chose to do little about it. Whether there was an agenda behind that fateful decision remains to be seen. The most important thing, though, is to remember the victims and their families. God Bless all those that perished.
ah sorry...misinfo from me. it was going through on deadline day, but a quick check on tinternet has shown the move didnt complete
Add to that the relatively small number who died compared to the number who would normally be working there (RIP to those who did die). As well as the fact that George Bush was sent documents informing him of Bin Ladens plans to launch a terrorist attack on the twin towers (yet no attempt was made to raise security levels). Clearly Bush and co took advantage of the deaths of thousand in the 9/11 attacks to launch their War for Oil*, so is it really that hard to believe that there's a possibility they were somehow involved? Okay the chances are I'm wrong and I'm aware of that. But Typical (I'm singling you out here because since joining the forum you have attempted to personally insult me 3 times), I don't wish to be shot down or abused for holding an opinion. The fact that all those who died should be remembered and paid tribute to still stands, regardless of whose fault it is. *for those who believe the invasion of the middle-east was for anything other than oil, explain why, when troops were 20 minutes from capturing Bin Laden very early on, they were told to hold off without any justification or reason being given.
wow, i agree with typical 100%. weird! again, conspiracy people, answer mine and Typical's theory regarding the impossibilty of keeping it a secret. also can we debate, not argue!
Yes keeping it a secret would be very difficult, but we're talking about the US here, possibly the most powerful and richest country/organisation in the world, threats, money, blackmail and bribery can go a long way, but yes it would be very difficult.
DIFFICULT!!!!! its is impossible. If Monica Lewisky can't keep her gob shut (Tch Boom) how do you expect the many thousands of people that worked in or around the crash sites not to say anything? To blow up a building without being lucky with a aeroplane would require a team of 40 skilled demolition workers about two weeks to strip away the buildings cement works and fabrics to expose the beams for charges the size of a bus to be planted. No one reported nothing....not a security guard or worker nobody....You cannot keep a thing like that secret, it is not about money or bribery or anything it is common sense!!!! Are you saying, from your earlier posting that the timing of the bombing was designed to cause minimum death? 2000 people is not minimal nor is 200 british deaths. Are you inferring some in the building were tipped off and our own goverment was involved? Why then was it at rush hour and not at midnight? Bush Jnr and Snr were getting credible attack warnings on a regular basis and so perhaps, can be criticised for not upping security but then again, so can we. Bin Laden of course had been active for 10 years prior to 9/11 and had attacked American Targets abroad and in New York previously, so what could have they have done different? Their was never a war for oil but revenge....If it was the yanks wanted the oil then they have paid about 20000000 times over the odds for each barrell. this war has costs trillions and it may have occurred to even the most blinkered of observers-not one barrel of oil has been purchased by the Americans at anything less than cost. You simply can't nick oil. As far as topping Bin Laden earlier, absolute tosh. You can't draw real evidence nor can you offer variables like it may not have been him or they had been fed misinformation. They were once given the co-ordinates of a school as a hideout of Bin Laden and advised to bomb immediately. Did you know that when a secret is known to more than one person, statistically that secret will be repeated to a billion people within a year. That is why I keep my biscuits in my sock drawer......doh!
..Just a small point. The "war for oil" argument was not about them actually gaining oil, they naturally have enough oil in the US. Can't be bothered to explain it, but just google petrodollar and it should give an explanation. I'm not saying that 9/11 was an inside job though however, just clearing up a misconception.
Please cite the evidence for such a claim from a valid historical rather than hysterical source. There may well have been one instance in the caves where the troops were held back so that heavy air strikes could save the lives of fighting soldiers but even then there is no evidence that Bin Laden was actually there. Conspiracy theorists have it easy since they can repeat statements without evidence in most instances. Yes I do believe that Iraq was about securing oil supplies for the west and maybe contracts for Haliburton but as has been pointed out the USA has paid face value for every barrel and it has cost them an economy which now has a lower credit rating than the UK or France.
When the Iraqi football team lost they used to have the soles of their feet beaten. The manager was Saddam Hussein's brother.
