They'd not want to bring bad publicity on themselves, but I think the point that your fans groups need to think about, is that the bad publicity you're going to try & create, won't reflect on the FA. It'll reflect on your current owner & club - the FA won't be able to reject this application without a valid reason & unless you can give them one aside from "we don't want it", I think your campaign is doomed to failure. The FA will merely say "we had no real grounds for refusal" & the book will be closed.
As it stands, the FA cannot give permission. It also needs Premier League approval, and that requires fan consultation, which as yet hasn't happened. The chairman has repeteadly failed to have a vote despite offers of help to set the question and administer it. That suggest he knows what the outcome would be. Given there are events at the Club this week to commemorate the fact that Hull is the birth place of the FA and therefore of world football, it being the home of the man that wrote the rules, Ebeneezer Cobb Morley, I doubt they'd want the Club to dissasociate itself from the Football Association, which is the other consequence of the name change.
I don't quite see how the proposed name change would equate to the club dissociating itself from the FA personally. As for the fans consultation required by the PL, do they specify what form this has to take? & whether the club would require an actual majority vote to carry it through? As I've read that there was a meeting between Allam & the fans groups, would this not constitute consultation?
The thing is Dutch the premier league refuse to define what they call fan consultation. They're keeping their cards very tight to their chess. For all we know fan consultation may already have taken place with Allam announcing it to the fan base and all the media appearances he made a few weeks ago, along withthe meeting, why else would he have done them? Tones is absolutely spot on, the FA/PL need a valid reason to reject it, and are unlikely to step in Allams way, especially when he saved both of those bodies from humiliation when he bankrolled us to financial safety and stopped us becoming yet another football club in administration that can't pay it's tax bill or its debts under their watchful eyes. Whilst the majority who do have something to say about the name change are against it, the total number of those in vehement opposition are still a minority of the overall fan base. Whilst I've no doubt that if a vote was sent to season ticket holders it would be almost an unanimous decision to keep the current name, I think too many just don't care enough or aren't willing to step in Allams way to do anything about it otherwise and stand up and be counted as opposition. They couldn't reject the proposal on the grounds of fan opposition unless they had solid proof of the greater consensus being against it. I don't think anyone will be able to get that evidence except for Assem Allam/the club, and why would they use their own means to shoot themselves in the foot? Edit: please excuse pig brained phone auto correct, I just read over the first two paragraphs and it appears to have had a party with this post.
Currently we are Hull City AFC, he wants to drop the AFC (He thinks he already has) and call us Hull Tigers. There's nothing concrete on what a consultation is, or even if a vote is required, but there's comments from the PL that what's happened so far, including the meeting with some fans doesn't count in any way as consultation. This is totally unique, hence people saying the MKDons analogy doesn't apply.
The PL and Fa have said that's what's occured so far isn't consultation. As it stands, the FA cannot approve the proposal. One valid reason to reject it is that the name's already gone.
Colin Murray has just had a good 5min debate on it, haven't got a link but it starts about 1 hour 35 min into his show, for anyone who wants to listen. He's still talking about it now as people are tweeting in etc. Anyway he wants to get Allam on his show maybe with a fan to have a discussion. Should be good if he does because he's totally against it
They still refuse to tell us what they define consultation as, that can only be so they can push it through by their own choice. Ad the fact that someone applied for the name earlier than Allam means **** all. The FA/FL/PL will look after its professional clubs first and foremost, there is no way they'll snub one of their top division professional clubs in favour of a currently non existent amateur club. If Hull Tigers had been registered last season and was a playing entity already this season then maybe, but there's no chance someone sending in an application a few weeks earlier will get in the way.
Getting a bit carried away there, DMD. Much as I would love Hull is the birthplace of the FA, it isn't. A bloke who was born in Hull and moved years previously helped draft the rules in London. They were originally called the London Rules and all the clubs who joined were London ones. His contribution is of course well worth noting. You have to think that a lot more fuss would be made by the council and the local media if someone from Hull had played an equally pivotal role in the founding of the RFL. It must irk them that Huddersfield and not the city with the biggest derby in the universe and everywhere beyond was the birthplace of the RFL.
Party, I think you should seek anger management. You always came across as such a cheery chappy, but recently the dark side has been strong in you. Maybe the episode with the woman you didn't shag has changed you. Maybe you should just visit a brothel instead.
The FA has absolute discretion in considering the name change application. They can do what they want according to their own rules. The grounds for refusing the application could be because Hull City hasn't consulted its stakeholders, the fans, its sponsors, Hull City Council, etc over the name change. It could ask Assem Allam to abide by the Premier League rules and resubmit the application. Or they could just reject it, or even pass it, its up to them.
Got a bird thanks! Yes, I am angry. Why wouldn't I be? It's a shame that Hull Tigers (established 2014) will be the football team for the city I have grown up in, and continue to live in. A new team with 10 years less heritage than MK Dons. Can turn even cheery chappies like me into very angry people.
Party would have to be Zammo. Full of angst and festering resentment. Mind you he's got a fringe so might have to play the part of the posh ponce with the bouffant. Can't think of his name mind.
You really are an idiot. Do you truly believe that the amateur efforts of tenfoot(twobob)tiger and exiled in running to the ercfa to register a team will stand in the way of the proposal to change the being put forward by Hull City? On that subject. The CTWD group claim that are not anti-Allam in any way, really? Registering team names, domain names, Meetings with the Premier league, approaches to to FA and various fan organisations, in short looking for any means at all to go against this including underhand methods. The very first banner produced by the 'Ulltras, contained the word STANDING and was a direct challenge to the club. The people behind this and their cohorts who self elected themselves to speak for us all under various names and guises have continued to challenge Mr Allam ever since. The vitriol toward Mr Allam was there for all to see over the dismissal of Pearson and Barmby and some of the worst "offenders" are at the core of the CTWD group. CTWD = Less than one thousand, many signed up for one thing and became part of something else without realising it. Once last thing for my old mate Dutch. Well Mr Allam refers to Scargillites, where do you think he got that idea from and would you like to remind people how you referred to your fellow City supporters that stated an intention to attend the Udders game?
care to share with us all how you proposed to raise Millions of pounds in revenue while managing to brand the club globally...
