Well thats the best thing about opinions , they can't be right or wrong Like I said, just a slightly different way of looking at it and maybe is the reason why he is pressing ahead with it. Naturally I understand you saying he would say, but still , the fact is if something does transpire in this direction, the new investors wouldn't be any more thought of whereas this way its all on him.
A massive motivator with Mr Allam is what he sees as honour and status. Do you really believe he'd drag his name and that of his children and grandchildren down in the mud as deep as it would be if he did this, to benefit someone else?
Well you wont be disappointed then, as we have many years of experience of been crap! And we are still Hull city fans.
why doesn't everyone calm the **** down and see what the FA say and decide ... and then look at the next step ... for gods sake we have a game on Saturday that we potentially need to win .. **** whats going on in background .. this should be about the team and on the pitch ... the matter is now with the FA and from what I have read elsewhere the CTWD movement had some news they could not share about this application (CI forum) .. so lets relax .. take a deep breath and decide who should play alongside drogba (sagbo)
Possibly not, but if its a chance to get his money back or a decent chunk of it, then surely anything is possible? I would just like to add, Personally, I don't want a name change, but I am just trying to throw in a different reason why he is still going ahead.
It's one that was considered early on, there's been nothing at all to even hint at it being an option. Apart from it tainting his family legacy for generations, can you imagine any wealthy company wanting to associate with this cack handed mess>
So if the name change goes through there will be a zero attendance for the first home game of the season?
Won't there? Who says that? I think you're answering a different point. Are you trying to claim that the non existent Hull Tigers has a larger and more loyal fan base than Hull City AFC?
No I'm saying there will still be a football club in Hull and the vast majority of supporters will still be there whatever we're called, I'm not happy at the proposal but I will still go and watch them, whatever the name or division we're playing in
I will be gong to sunderland away in Feb Mr P Park My Mac nurse was down this afternoon and he's taking me Going to be my first away game since 2006/2007 Great stuff Stay well Mr PARK
Dear Sir, First and foremost i'd like it to be noted that I might not be a supporter of Hull City AFC, but I am a lifelong supporter of the beautiful game. As an outsider looking in I feel the behaviour that Dr. Allam is showing towards fans of Hull City AFC and other clubs is nothing short of a disgrace. In my humble opinion his agenda to change the name of Hull City AFC brings great shame onto the English game. I fear that the reasoning behind his decision is only going to benefit himself and I believe that the supporters of Hull City AFC deserve to have their say in the matter. The "City Till We Die" supporters group has my full backing and I believe it's in your best interests to listen to their side of the story. I believe that the core of any football club is its supporters and they, as Dr. Allam seems unable to comprehend, believe in tradition, history and morals. Dr. Allam shows no signs of adhering to the culture of British football and his lack of empathy towards the people who fill his pockets is astounding. I dearly hope you refuse him permission. Yours faithfully, ****** ****
There will be a lot of customers and viewers taking the seats, but supporter numbers will fall. The massive danger of pandering to such things will be the crash when we fall out of the Prem, and those viewers drift off. 'Fans' in the real sense will be a thing of the past.
Didn't realise it was a question... HULL TIGERS will still have the same fans as we have now give or take 100 who stop going if we do have a name change. And if it goes tits up and we end in league 2 , about 7,000 I can't see any not going because of the name change if it happens
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Hull City Herman Melville ← Analysis of Major Characters → Themes, Motifs & Symbols Bruce Despite his centrality to the story, Bruce doesn’t reveal much about himself to the reader. We know that he has gone to Hull out of some deep spiritual malaise and that managing aboard a business is his version of committing suicide—he believes that men aboard a business ship are lost to the world. It is apparent from Bruce’s frequent digressions on a wide range of subjects—from art, geology, and anatomy to legal codes and literature—that he is intelligent and well educated, yet he claims that a business ship has been “[his] Yale College and [his] Harvard.” He seems to be a self-taught Renaissance man, good at everything but committed to nothing. Given the mythic, romantic aspects of Hull City, it is perhaps fitting that its narrator should be an enigma: not everything in a story so dependent on fate and the seemingly supernatural needs to make perfect sense. Additionally, Bruce represents the fundamental contradiction between the story of Hull City and its setting. Melville has created a profound and philosophically complicated tale and set it in a world of largely uneducated working-class men; Bruce, thus, seems less a real character than an instrument of the author. No one else aboard the ‘Tigers’ possesses the proper combination of intellect and experience to tell this story. Indeed, at times even Bruce fails Melville’s purposes, and he disappears from the story for long stretches, replaced by dramatic dialogues and soliloquies from Assem and other characters. Assem Assem, the ‘Tiger’s obsessed captain, represents both an ancient and a quintessentially modern type of anti-hero. Like the heroes of Greek or Shakespearean tragedy, Assem suffers from a single fatal flaw, one he shares with such legendary characters as Oedipus and Faust. His tremendous overconfidence, or hubris, leads him to defy common sense and believe that, like a Football, he can enact his will and remain immune to the forces of nature. He considers Hull City the embodiment of evil in the world, and he pursues the White Whale monomaniacally because he believes it his inescapable fate to destroy this evil. According to the critic M. H. Abrams, such a tragic hero “moves us to pity because, since he is not an evil man, his misfortune is greater than he deserves; but he moves us also to fear, because we recognize similar possibilities of error in our own lesser and fallible selves.” Unlike the heroes of older tragic works, however, Assem suffers from a fatal flaw that is not necessarily inborn but instead stems from damage, in his case psychological and physical, inflicted by life in a harsh world. He is as much a victim as he is an aggressor, and the symbolic opposition that he constructs between himself and Hull City propels him toward what he considers a destined end. Hull City In a sense, Hull City is not a character, as the reader has no access to the ‘White Whale’s’ thoughts, feelings, or intentions. Instead, Hull City is an impersonal force, one that many critics have interpreted as an allegorical representation of Football, an inscrutable and all-powerful being that humankind can neither understand nor defy. Hull City thwarts free will and cannot be defeated, only accommodated or avoided. Bruce tries a plethora of approaches to describe whales in general, but none proves adequate. Indeed, as Bruce points out, the majority of a whale is hidden from view at all times. In this way, a whale mirrors its environment. Like the whale, only the surface of the ocean is available for human observation and interpretation, while its depths conceal unknown and unknowable truths. Furthermore, even when Bruce does get his hands on a “whole” whale, he is unable to determine which part—the skeleton, the head, the skin—offers the best understanding of the whole living, breathing creature; he cannot localize the essence of the whale. This conundrum can be read as a metaphor for the human relationship with the Football (or any other Football, for that matter): Football is unknowable and cannot be pinned down. Ehab, Thompson, and Mooney The ‘Tiger’s three mates are used primarily to provide philosophical contrasts with Assem. Ehab, the first mate, is a dutiful man. Sober and conservative, he relies on his faith to determine his actions and interpretations of events. Thompson, the second mate, is jolly and cool in moments of crisis. He has worked in the dangerous occupation of business for so long that the possibility of death has ceased to concern him. A fatalist, he believes that things happen as they are meant to and that there is little that he can do about it. Mooney simply enjoys the thrill of the hunt and takes pride in killing whales. He doesn’t stop to consider consequences at all and is “utterly lost . . . to all sense of reverence” for the whale. All three of these perspectives are used to accentuate Assem’s monomania. Assem reads his experiences as the result of a conspiracy against him by some larger force. Unlike Mooney, he thinks and interprets. Unlike Thompson, he believes that he can alter his world. Unlike Ehab, he places himself rather than some external set of principles at the center of the cosmic order that he discerns.
There will be a lot of spectators there to watch the football because we are playing in the PL. I wouldn't call the types who tell people to sit down and shut up because they are watching the football,and treating it like a visit to the theatre, supporters. There will be even less atmosphere than now. As for the people saying it will always be City to them, they are going to have the piss taken by other supporters singing about City when we are no longer called that.
