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Mysteries of the Universe and other important questions

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  1. moreinjuredthanowen

    moreinjuredthanowen Mr Brightside

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    yes i saw that. the seismic activity is big enough discover but they detected plumes of water being ejected out into space
     
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  2. moreinjuredthanowen

    moreinjuredthanowen Mr Brightside

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    just my view but einstein never accepted quantum theory at all as it removed the god element and he didn't like it. the basis is chance.

    I think dark matter is an interesting discussion but its a theory designed to answer questions about why the universe is expanding etc etc but not really provable yet.

    the evidence thats there of there's basically too much expansion to explain with the matter in the universe and energy so this is an attempt to invent more. the answer could simply be something else..

    however no sheldon cooper is on the case, we will know shortly... as soon as he's finished playing pokemon go <ok>
     
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  3. Red Hadron Collider

    Red Hadron Collider The Hammerhead

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    There are convincing arguments for it. The latest telescopes will be looking at 'bruising' on the outer extremities of the universe, where our universe has bumped into other universes <yikes>
     
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  4. Red Hadron Collider

    Red Hadron Collider The Hammerhead

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    'God doesn't play dice'.
     
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  5. jenners04

    jenners04 I must not post porn!

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    Maybe we are looking for the wrong thing and the aliens as we like to call them have been right under our noses all along.

    Looking for a planet that may have water is only relevant to humans and how we understand life to exist or be possible.
     
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  6. moreinjuredthanowen

    moreinjuredthanowen Mr Brightside

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    thats true but finding an organic life form that doesn't use it will be a stretch IMO. looking at what we know about combining other elements carbon, oxygen, silicon whatever... hydrocarbons are going to be by far the most common chemicals out there and oxygen is one of the most reactive substances going.
     
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  7. Milk not bear jizz

    Milk not bear jizz Grasser-In-Chief

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    Sensationalism in the press.

    Yeah. There is almost certainly no liquid water on that planet. A red dwarf star and that close the atmosphere would be stripped away. If there were an atmosphere there still wouldn't be liquid water. That planet is almost certainly tidally locked as close as it is to sun.

    A tidally locked planet has one hot side and one cold side. Any water on hot side would evaporate and when it reached cold side it would freeze. The only side hot enough to have liquid water would be completely arid.

    We could probably build a habitat at the edge of the two zones and import solar power from hot side and ice from cold side... But its almost completely impossible there is water based life there.
     
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    Milk not bear jizz Grasser-In-Chief

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    No. But he used to play football.
     
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  9. moreinjuredthanowen

    moreinjuredthanowen Mr Brightside

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    who knows.... the star could be as dim as a cheese drinker?

    Is it tidally locked? again who knows really? it seems to spin about quite fast so who knows.

    They can't actually see it just do analysis based on observing star etc.
     
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  10. Milk not bear jizz

    Milk not bear jizz Grasser-In-Chief

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    They don't know. They don't actually know the size either despite many newspapers claiming to the contrary. They can't tell the size with any certsinty without knowin at what angle from us it passes in front of the star.

    Most science articles I read (as opposed to general news media) on the subject suggested that it most likely doesn't have an atmosphere and is tidally locked... So how does main stream media react:

    "Earth twin capable of supporting life found in neighbouring star system". <laugh>
     
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  11. astro

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    He invented it, because he thought the universe wasn't expanding. But then we found out the universe is expanding, so he thought it was a mistake. Then we found out the universe is expanding faster than expected, so it might not be a mistake.
     
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    Jeremy Hillary Boob GC Thread Terminator

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    Yeah. Einstein wasn't religious, per se, but proposed a Spinoza type, determinism (plan?) throughout the universe. The expression about God playing dice is no different, in that context, to hawking using Newton's phrase about seeing the face of God. More importantly, if you take his discussions with Bohr, his point about entanglement and 'spooky action at a distance' was more about the argument that something was going on that we don't understand, as opposed to Bohr's insistence that we could NEVER understand it.
     
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  13. Spurlock

    Spurlock Homeboy Forum Moderator

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    They are grey. Arrogant ( not you personally like)to think we are the only ones that talk.

    It's like saying a fish is just a fish. The Orca(killer whale) resides in many oceans across different continents. Did you know they have different 'accents' depending on what part of the worlds ocean they reside in?

    But we just see a fish for a fish.....at best can do a few hoops for ***** pooofie human beings.
     
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    Milk not bear jizz Grasser-In-Chief

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    Dolphins (close relatives of orca) can communicate instructions to each other, have names, and likely have a language that includes tense.

    They're not fish. They're mammals closer to hippos than salmon.
     
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    Spurlock Homeboy Forum Moderator

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    My bad. A minor error. You get me though Milkman. There is more than meets the eye...and it has more to offer than a plankton.
     
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  16. Jeremy Hillary Boob

    Jeremy Hillary Boob GC Thread Terminator

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    And it's not a fish.
     
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  17. Red Hadron Collider

    Red Hadron Collider The Hammerhead

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    Don't over-generalise <ok>
     
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    Europa spouting off again
    Hubble images of plumes on Jupiter’s icy moon revive talk of hidden ocean
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    CHRISTOPHER CROCKETT
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    COME INTO VIEW Plumes erupting from Europa (illustrated) stand out against light from Jupiter in observations from the Hubble Space Telescope.

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    Jupiter’s moon Europa might once again be venting water into space, further supporting the idea that an ocean hides beneath its thick shell of ice, researchers reported September 26 at a news conference.

    Plumes erupting from the moon’s surface, silhouetted against background light from Jupiter, appear in several images taken by the Hubble Space Telescope in early 2014. The geysers — presumably of water vapor or ice particles — showed up in the same location as an eruption captured by Hubble in 2012 (SN: 1/25/14, p. 6). The eruptions also appear to be intermittent, appearing in only three out of 10 images. Material hovering over the moon’s southern hemisphere and absorbing ultraviolet light coming from Jupiter made the plumes visible.

    “The plumes are a sign that we may be able to explore the ocean without having to drill through unknown miles of ice,” said William Sparks, an astronomer at the Space Telescope Science Institute in Baltimore. “We presume it to be water or ice particles because that’s what Europa is made of and those molecules do absorb at the wavelengths we observed,” he said. Future spacecraft could plow through the plumes and sample the water to better understand its chemistry and look for by-products of life.


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    LEAKY MOON Geysers on Europa appear as green and red blobs at roughly the 6 and 7 o’clock positions on Europa in these three images from the Hubble Space Telescope.
    NASA, ESA, W. SPARKS/STSCI
     
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  19. Spurlock

    Spurlock Homeboy Forum Moderator

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    Yes we know now its a mammal...thanks Ding.
     
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