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  1. Billy Death

    Billy Death Well-Known Member

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    Thems the boys for the job like. <ok>
     
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  2. Commachio

    Commachio Rambo 2021

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    True mate, but just imagine what would be in store for them if captured..

    So this is also correct.


    The elite troops have been ordered to “fight to the last man” rather than face being taken prisoner by the Islamic State militants.

    The soldiers have also been told “save the last bullet for yourselves” if they are “surrounded and without hope of being rescued”.

    The orders follow the murder of a Jordanian jet pilot who was burned to death after his plane was shot down.



    SAS commanders have told their troops it would be virtually impossible to rescue them because the militants move prisoners daily.

    Their capture would be a major prize for the jihadis, who would inflict weeks of torture before executing them.

    One source said last night: “The SAS have been told that if they are captured they can expect to be tortured before being beheaded, disembowelled or burned alive. They know there is virtually no chance of being rescued.

    “Everyone taking part in the Iraq mission knows the risks.

    “Most of the guys would never let themselves be taken prisoner – not by Islamic State (IS).”

    The source said if SAS soldiers were captured they would expect the British Government to do the “honourable thing” and order an airstrike on the compound where they were being held.

    He added: “If you’re captured and can’t be rescued then you would want the RAF to come along and drop a very large bomb.

    “A quick end is preferable to a long and painful death.”

    Sources told the Daily Star Sunday that SAS troops have almost been captured on two occasions but managed to escape with the help of a US Reaper drone which halted a jihadi attack.


    All members of the special forces receive instruction in escape, evasion and resistance to interrogation.

    But even the SAS training is likely to fail given the torture techniques employed by IS.

    The source said: “As a member of the SAS you know that you are going to be executed by the enemy if you’re captured.

    “That’s why we carry pistols. It’s our secondary weapon. But it also allows us the choice of topping ourselves when all hope has gone. Better that than giving away where your mates are operating.
    Read more at
     
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  3. Billy Death

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    Of that I have absolutely no doubt.
     
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  4. Blunham Mackem

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    I noticed those reports are 8 months old mate.

    But it sort of confirms why we haven't heard that much from politicians about sending our lads in, because they're already there.

    Just hope they all come home! Every last one of them!
     
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  5. Sidthemackem

    Sidthemackem Newcastle United 0-1 Cambridge United
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    Makes you wonder just how many of he bastard IS fighters there are, given the rate that the Yank bombing, the Kurds, Iraqi & Syrian regulars and these special forces seem to be knocking them off. Like bloody cockroaches...
     
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  6. Commachio

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    hate them.
     
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  7. Blunham Mackem

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    Ten years on.

    Seems like yesterday.
     
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  8. Rick O'Shea

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    Some lunatics murdering other lunatics, really enjoyable.

    Not.
     
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  9. Tel (they/them)

    Tel (they/them) Sucky’s Bailiff

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    Nobody's forcing you to watch it.
     
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  10. Commachio

    Commachio Rambo 2021

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    Reckon this would be a cracking job to have..A helicopter gunner......get some.

     
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    Tel (they/them) Sucky’s Bailiff

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    I'd ****ing love that job.

    I'd like to hover over Downing Street with it though, rather than popping some scruffy farmers in dresses like them lot.

    Bet you've watched that video haven't you?
     
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  12. Commachio

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    I havn't mate, had a quick look on liveleaks.
     
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  13. Tel (they/them)

    Tel (they/them) Sucky’s Bailiff

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    You'll not find it on there mate, that's playdays compared to bestgore.com make sure you've not just had your dinner mind, 90% of the stuff on there is ****ing brutal.
     
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  16. its been fun thanks :)

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  17. Commachio

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    "This is my last chance to do anything good, because I am getting older," he says.

    These are words that 52-year-old Jim Atherton from the English town of Washington can relate to. A former skinhead and white van driver, Atherton spent over 20 years delivering cargo across Europe.

    "To be honest, I was looking for something else," says the father-of-three, wearing combat trousers and Doc Martin boots. "I've got a colourful history, and I'm getting on in life. I want to say I've done something."

    Atherton refuses elaborate on his colourful past, but it prevented him from joining the army in spite of several attempts.

    http://www.ibtimes.co.uk/anti-isis-...well-ranks-christian-militia-fighting-1510550
     
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    Well done to David Cameron!

    Our first drone strike in Syria and we targeted one but killed 2 British, IS fighters <ok>

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-34178998

    Two UK Islamic State fighters were killed by an RAF drone strike, in the first confirmed British airstrike in Syria, David Cameron has said.

    Cardiff-born Reyaad Khan was targeted in Raqqa on 21 August and died alongside fellow Briton Ruhul Amin and another fighter, the PM told MPs.

    Khan, 21, had been plotting "barbaric" attacks at UK public events, he said.

    The "act of self defence" was lawful, Mr Cameron said, despite MPs previously ruling out UK military action in Syria.

    Khan was killed in a precision strike by a remotely piloted aircraft, "after meticulous planning", while he was travelling in a vehicle, the prime minister said.

    The attorney general had been consulted and agreed there was a "clear legal basis" for it, Mr Cameron added.

    Acting Labour leader Harriet Harman urged the government to publish the legal advice.

    'Directing murder'

    Two years ago MPs rejected possible UK military action in Syria, but last September approved British participation in air strikes against IS targets in Iraq only.

    However, officials said the UK would "act immediately [in Syria] and explain to Parliament afterwards" if there was "a critical British national interest at stake".

    In his statement to the Commons, Mr Cameron said: "My first duty as prime minister is to keep the British people safe.

    "There was a terrorist directing murder on our streets and no other means to stop him.

    "This government does not for one moment take these decisions lightly.

    "But I am not prepared to stand here in the aftermath of a terrorist attack on our streets and have to explain to the House why I did not take the chance to prevent it when I could have done."

    Analysis

    Unmanned Reaper drones joined RAF Tornado jets in conducting surveillance and air strikes soon after Parliament authorised military action against the group calling itself Islamic State last September.

    The vote confined that military action to Iraq, but at the time the prime minister told MPs he "reserved the right" to act elsewhere "if there were a critical British national interest at stake".

    The government will argue the air strike on Reyaad Khan was such a case. But carrying out an RAF air strike in Syria will still be controversial; even more so because a British citizen was targeted.

    Though government officials insist that he posed a direct threat to the UK and was on a legitimate "target list", there'll be plenty of questions. What was the intelligence on which the decision was based? Whose target list was he on?

    There are reports the CIA has compiled a list of high-value targets. There will inevitably be some suspicion around the secrecy - the MoD has never publicly stated how many Reapers the RAF is operating or where they're based.

    The fact that RAF Reapers have been flying over Syria is not in itself a surprise. Defence Secretary Michael Fallon told MPs last October they would be conducting surveillance missions.

    But in a written statement he also stated: "Reapers are not authorised to use weapons in Syria; that would require further permission."

    Labour's Ms Harman called for "independent scrutiny" of the attack, asking: "Why didn't the Attorney General authorise this specific action rather than merely 'confirming there was a legal basis for it'?"

    "What was it about this individual and his actions that singled him out from all that has gone before?

    "Did he represent an ongoing threat or was the threat based on a specific act he was plotting?"

    Following the statement, former attorney general Dominic Grieve said the killing "would be justifiable if the factual basis is there", but that it was possible the decision taken by the government could be "legally reviewed or challenged".

    Another British national, Junaid Hussain, from Birmingham, was killed in a separate air strike by US forces in Raqqa on 24 August, the prime minister confirmed.
     
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  19. Commachio

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    Good. About time.
     
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  20. Brian Storm

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    Good, glad we hit our target.
     
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