1. Log in now to remove adverts - no adverts at all to registered members!

Moyes told not to sack staff by Fergie

Discussion in 'Manchester United' started by Carrick_16, Sep 30, 2013.

  1. Red Hadron Collider

    Red Hadron Collider The Hammerhead

    Joined:
    Mar 2, 2011
    Messages:
    57,478
    Likes Received:
    9,839
    And this is the way it should be. Fair play Rufflad <ok> My reporter mate is in this space as well.
     
    #61
  2. astro

    astro Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Feb 2, 2012
    Messages:
    46,790
    Likes Received:
    15,882
    <laugh> rep <ok>
     
    #62
  3. Bodinki

    Bodinki You're welcome Forum Moderator

    Joined:
    Dec 14, 2011
    Messages:
    27,842
    Likes Received:
    15,527
    To be fairer, he doesnt have a clue about much to be honest.
    Just talks in childish non sequiturs and does a lot of swearing with brackets and doh faces.
     
    #63
  4. Sir Tennisball

    Sir Tennisball Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Apr 4, 2012
    Messages:
    2,610
    Likes Received:
    777
    Hilarious.

    Not quite as funny as when your fans were saying exactly that about King Kenny though, was it?
     
    #64
  5. Sir Tennisball

    Sir Tennisball Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Apr 4, 2012
    Messages:
    2,610
    Likes Received:
    777
    Honestly, I think the board and many fans would give Moyes time even if we had a bad season and finished outside the top 4. The important thing would be that there would be the hope (& expectation) that things would improve.

    I don't think the board would do a Chelsea or Man City and overreact after one bad season under a brand new manager, unless something significant happened that wasn't purely results related.

    If, for example, we have a bad season and it seemed that Moyes was totally out of his depth or had totally lost the dressing room then you expect the board to have a closer look at his position, but I don't see that happening. He has plenty of experience and we have strong characters in our squad that won't let the players get out of hand even if results dip this season.
     
    #65
  6. Christiansmith

    Christiansmith Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Aug 30, 2011
    Messages:
    9,727
    Likes Received:
    1,558
    This.

    Moyes is not incompetent. He has got to get used to the expectations and learn about the strength and weaknesses of his players . I honestly think he underestimated WBA and the players were really not up for it on Saturday. I cannot imagine him doing the same mistake again.

    What the last few weeks has shown (IMO) is that the players need to be gee'ed up to perform for all the matches. SAF got them to perform for every premiership match. No need to rev themselves up for the big fish. In that sense Hansen has got a point. We cannot slide into a situation where players pick and choose the match they are going to give 100%. A bit like previous scousers teams which would beat top teams but then lose points against so called lesser clubs. That is the reason why they have been lingering in mid table.

    The dismissal of all the backroom staff was not wise. Because this means every one (from f**king Woodward down) is learning about the club and the players ...<doh>
     
    #66

  7. NewarkTiger

    NewarkTiger Member

    Joined:
    Jan 24, 2011
    Messages:
    734
    Likes Received:
    2
    To give an opinion from outside the top 4 (and Liverpool) I think:

    1) Fergie chose this year to retire because he knew (a) the squad was in decline and (b) he knew there weren't sufficient funds to do another rebuilding job.
    2) Moyes is the wrong appointment for Man Utd - this might sound stupid but he doesn't look right in the dug out at OT and he doesn't come across as a Man Utd manager - see Woy arriving at Anfield, it never looked or felt right from the start.
    3) 442 is no way to compete at the top end of European football and trying to accommodate Rooney up front isn't working.
    4) Moyes isn't brave enough to drop players who have been mainstays under Fergie. There's some good young players at Utd but he's too scared to play them (see Rogers at L'pool as a brave manager prepared to give youth a chance).
    5) Ashley Young - one of the worst footballers I've ever seen play for you

    He needs to be brave, and he needs to set the team up better and he needs to have a good plan b and c.

    I'd line up like this:

    --------------De Gea---------------
    Rafael----Vidic-------Jones----Evra (In my opinion both full backs need replacing)
    ---------Carrick----Fellaini----------
    Zaha--------Rooney--------Januzaj
    -----------Van Persie---------------
     
    #67
  8. Christiansmith

    Christiansmith Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Aug 30, 2011
    Messages:
    9,727
    Likes Received:
    1,558
    Your opinion is as valid as the next man's. But it is still an opinion. <ok>

    I do not think that SAF retired because his sqaud was in decline. He was going to retire once he had captured the title from City. He wanted to leave on a high.

    Your first team is not bad. Very close to mine. Although I would not throw in Januzaj and Zaha just yet. They are certainly better than he likes of Young and Anderson <ok>
     
    #68
  9. Diego

    Diego Lone Ranger

    Joined:
    Jun 29, 2011
    Messages:
    47,815
    Likes Received:
    23,918
    Six year contract suggests they are prepared to give him a little time.
     
    #69

Share This Page