I wouldnt call top 4 a "delusion" for Liverpool.
One could argue that winning the title would be a delusion if a liverpool fan has said such things.
But top 4 isnt a delusion.
Who is better than Liverpool at this point in time, certainly not United at the moment, only 3 clubs, Arsenal, Chelsea and City.....meaning 4th place is very much open to anyone and Liverpool have performed better than the rest of the league so far (bar the 3 I have already mentioned).
Man United could turn it around and start picking up points and get 4th spot, but at the moment its not looking great for them.
And since when was optimism ******ed?
Deluded would be to think that Man United would not suffer a dip in form this year when they lost the best manager of the last 30 years and replaced him with David Moyes.