Disagree. See his comments re. M'Vila, Januzaj, his reasons for allowing Lens to leave on loan, his negative tactical approach, his poor team selections. Like I said earlier, Allardyce built a team from meagre resources, Moyes has made a bad situation worse.
He's a keeper? - in what sense? Proven track record? - he's failed at his last two jobs and he's failing here too. Just out of interest, aside from the financial burden of sacking him and aside from that word 'stability' - what positives do you see in Moyes taking us forward?
Christ this is the worst thing about relegation. All the footy manager experts coming over with a pseudo sympathetic attitude which fools no one telling us what's wrong with our club. Haway boys if you actually had decent craic or a pair of balls between you you would have been on before now however you don't on either account and have hid since may last year....cant think why
I so wanted it to work now for him. iI noe so much want him just to **** off. He's a ****ing shambles. Gutted
The club are standing by him........Are the board members on crack or what........He is the reason your going down ffs...
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/39498426 Moyes never feared for his job despite slap comment. Not ****ing suprised, if he's not getting sacked for the pigs ear of a job he's done so far then he ain't getting sacked until seasons end full stop.
Irrelevant. He'll be in charge next season in the championship. Opinion only matters when it matters. Our opinion doesn't matter to Short. He's doing his own thing which looks to be getting us relegated to correct our revenues and raise enough to pay off the Bank loan so he can sell the club.
Get rid of Moyes ASAP..he's a loser who couldn't motivate a dick to get hard!!He has failed in his last two managerial jobs before he came to us...he's now got his hat-trick!!
Sorry mate, should I close the thread then? In all all seriousness, I was after a gauge of the split between our fan base. Granted it's a small sample size but it gives an idea. My stream wasn't the greatest tonight and kept freezing so can't confirm personally but I read somewhere that even the fans at the game vocally turned on him, it's never a good sign that if true and a huge huge job regaining that support. For what it's worth, I also think he'll still be our manager next season, much to my disappointment. Only way I see that not happening is that if our remaining fixtures go horrifically wrong (4/5 goal drubbing wrong) or he walks off his own back.
Not at all I just meant the question is irrelevant to me. My head is clearly in a much different place to many. I've been on to Short for years. Feel sorry for those in a state out outrage, still clinging to Moyes getting sacked in some hope that it's a managerial appointment that's going to turn our fortunes. It won't, the only thing that matters to our long term furtue is paying the debt to the bank in 2 years time. The next 6 months is going to be a shock to their system as we're stripped to the bare bones to bring that wage bill down to next to nothing, something we can never do in the PL. If we're lucky next year we'll be a mid table Championship club. I wouldn't risk a penny on us finishing top half let a alone promotion. Folk better believe that debt comes first.
For the record, I'm not in the Moyes out camp because I want a quick fix and another 'great escape'. I just don't see a good future with him at the helm. I want someone who, if it takes that long to be given 2/3 season in Championship to mound a squad and mound the club from perrenial relegation battlers with a losing mentality until it's last chance saloon to a state where we're comfortable from top to bottom. Similar to Southampton for example. Granted the Short argument is relevant to the Moyes in/out debate but I just don't see a bright future with him as our manager, do you?
I'd like to get shot too but unless we're hovering around the champ drop zone Short's got no incentive to sack him as it will cost a lot less to sack him mid way though next season than it would now. There's just no need for Short to sack him. It's just a pay off he's unwilling to fund and it will achieve very little when you consider new owners may want their own man. Risk back to back relegation could blow his chance of clawing back his investment and could force a sacking 7 months down the line. He's trying to sell, once the bank debt is paid for and the squad is stripped back there's a blank canvas for the new owners. Only thing left will be the loan to Short, or the loan to himself as it really is, that's basically a case of how much of a hit he's willing to take. Ultimately we're preparing to be sold, what happens on the pitch means nothing to this prep unless we're of risk of being relegated again. Then the new owner set about installing the infrastructure to rebuild. Sadly on pitch activity is going to suffer over this period. I'm prepared for what's ahead and it's mostly built up off taking up other interests. The next year is going to be dull dull dull for SAFC. Unless our younguns take the Championship by storm that is.
