Utter bollocks, so if Utd had appointed Maureen and Chelsea Moyes you would've been tickety boo. I wasn't calling Chelsea FC or all Chelsea supporters hypocrites, just the earlier poster who thinks Utd and their supporters should give Moyes "a chance" when he wasn't prepared to give Rafa "a chance".
Yep Ruff, Woy saying in an interview prior to accepting the job at our place that he'd have to ok it with Fergie never helped his cause.
I would've backed Moyes just like United fans initially did and not wanted him to **** right off like I did with Rafa.
It is without question the best in the league with the right manager, 3 of the last 5 titles with the two that we didnt win lost by the very finest of margins. Put it this way, put last season united in this season and we are 8 points clear at the top. So much better it hard to imagine just how put of his depth moyes is. Any capable manager would be managing the champions elect. No question about that.
Also problems with the managers at Chelsea and city last season <Laugh> Get a ****ing grip, the league winning manager and tge champions league winning manager lol... Problems my arse.
Have to agree, with someone like Mou in charge, you would be top or near it now. All this panic talk of United needing to spend £200m is rubbish. A good manager to revitalise some excellent players and boxing clever in the transfer market will sort the side out. A good manager such as Carlo etc could get another good year out of evra vidic etc, and possibly others while rebuilding
Not that I want him to as we have to move on, but if Fergie came back now he would have that dressing room sorted in a week and have the team back to winning ways. The big problem is that someone at OT took their eye off the ball big time and couldn't/wouldn't see how much of a problem it would be if Gill left at the same time as SAF. Someone should have said that it was either one or the other, but not at the same time. Add to that the fact that nobody insited that there had to be a season-long transition between changing over the backroom and coaching staff. All of those things together were the perfect recipe for a train wreck. What is done is done, but what has emerged is a manager who does not posess, or has not developed the qualities that SAF believed he had when putting his name forward. Performances on the pitch are rubbish, club revenues are plummeting and the experienced players clearly have no confidence in Moyes' abilities to manage a club of this stature. Often in life you fancy a chance at something that looks pretty easy, only to find the reality is the complete opposite and the task is impossible - SAF thought that DM would be a good manager at a higher level, but that is painfully not the case. Pretty much the same can be said for the majority of players brought into OT over recent years from so called lesser clubs - Fellani, Young, Jones and Smalling - they all looked as though they could step up, but again the reality is that they can't adapt and are just short of the required standard. Moyes is that - just short of the required standard, but the prime concern was always the fact that he had no demonstrable success at the highest level, a mistake that we cannot make with our next manager. For me, Klopp is the stand-out candidtate. His has youth and energy and has demonstrated that he can make his team play with tempo and an attacking drive - just like a true United side. Someone like Klopp would be deserving of time to change things arounf because, unlike Moyes, fans would know what the objective was, what the end result would likely be. Moyes, by contrast, hasn't once set out his long-term plans for the team and seems more interest in scouting and training and micro-managing the whole set-up and making it up as he goes along. Blind faith and misplaced loyalty will only take this great club further down the table, a situation that would leave us with little or no chance of attracting the necessary players or manager to recover.
I think that's an exaggeration and detracts from how good Ferguson actually was. I do though think that we should be at the very least comfortably within the hallowed top four area.
Thanks for kind of answering my question from 24 hours ago, about the qualities Moyes has to be a success at United. No proMoyes poster has been able to pinpoint his potential as why he should be United manager yet. Maybe swarbs can
Fergie designated most of the work in his later years. He had a top class coaching team. Fergies main strength was to get the players believing. He was never a tactical mastermind but he learned as he went along. When he made a mistake he didnt make it again. He let others do the training drills, work on the tactics and together they made the game plan. The coaches and Fergie names the side well before the day of the game, they then went over exactly what will happen. However Fergie was the sort to pull a player aside and tell him hes a champion, a winner. He taught the players failure didnt exist and Manchester United only know winning. I bet before the season opener he told the playera to clear another space in their medal cabinet. A new season for united and Fergie meant a new medal. We were the greatest side English football has ever seen, multiple times. Not because we had a master tactician or anything but because the side believeD it was the case. Now we have some nobody saying how **** we are and that everyone needa replacing. No Mr Moyes, we nees you replacing. A few years ago Fergie said this current crop of players were his best ever, true or false, they went out and made that claim almost true. Man management. The key to success, the key to united.
Perhaps but that's where I disagree. Only he could make our current squad win the league. Others would do better than Moyes but the simple fact of the matter is the squad need some change, regardless of who is in charge.
Course it does, which is why given how our rivals have strengthened it would struggle to win the league. Unless the new man (or Moyes) spends some cash in summer it won't win, or compete, next season either.
umm think you need a bit more than that nowadays .. just talking don't do it .. study . other teams. etc the players have to be good enough . especially in Europe. where yous have been found wanting for some time now. the team moyes took over ..remember he has had injuries. but say the defence ..c half needed badly ..c mid in and out players ..average .. at the moment .yous have very good up front . not a bad young winger ... but so bad at the back def center halfs .. vidic and Ferdinand way off the pace. to old .. and replacements aint much better . give the bloke a chance to strengthen certain areas ..that's all.
Utd are massive and need a manager of stature. Moyes is not the answer and, worryingly for Utd fans, never will be. Utd had the chance to employ Jose yet chose Moyes. Mental.
