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Moyes confirmed as new United manager. HIAG apology due....

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  1. Huh?
     
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  2. King Ossie64

    King Ossie64 Well-Known Member

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    I don't ****ing care about what he's supposed to be worth when Dave had the ****er in his pocket all night. The **** got one free kick at the end, try 30 shekels. <ok>
     
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  3. See, it's your sparkling wit that makes me admire you so much, Ozzie. You old rake!
     
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  4. No Kane No Gain

    No Kane No Gain Well-Known Member

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    That's not what Robby's been saying when he neg reps my posts <laugh>
     
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  5. Ah, I see that you are a Bible scholar, Ozzie.

    Perhaps you can help with a conundrum that I have struggled with since a boy. If Judas was born to betray Christ, how does that square with the statement in Genesis that God created Man with free will?
     
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    King Ossie64 Well-Known Member

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    A conundrum? have you been blowing the rabbi son? Are we talking about the man you put to death? Its all fiction lad just like your comments.<ok>
     
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    King Ossie64 Well-Known Member

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    A conundrum? have you been blowing the rabbi son? Are we talking about the man you put to death? Its all fiction lad just like your comments.<ok>
     
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  8. PINKIE

    PINKIE Wurzel Gummidge

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    I know, you've even admitted that yourself :

    and

    In 'stating the bleedin' obvious' shocker <laugh>
     
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  9. Chelsea Pensioner

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    I look forward to HIAGs' daily predictions, at least he's better than Lawro !!!!!
    Did make a small hiccup with the Spurs Juggernaut, but it does have a nice ring to it, and leaves plenty of opportunity to pun and parody. Also a tiny mistake with Mourinho and Man Utd, but hey, no ones perfect.
    Perhaps HIAG can look into the future and tell us who we will buy and sell at seasons end???? We could them run a "Trump HIAG " competition and determine just who really is the best pundit, 'cause there sure are a lot on here claiming the title !!
     
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  10. CFC: Champs £launderx17

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    His Spurs' title challenge posts were hilarious last season, as were his 'mind the gap' posts when Sours were 13 points ahead of Arsenal
     
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    PINKIE Wurzel Gummidge

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    Whenever HIAG gets too cocky for his own good (which is everytime he's on here) I remind him of his now infamous quote

    <laugh>
     
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  12. PINKIE

    PINKIE Wurzel Gummidge

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    and his new infamous quote:

    <laugh>

    HIAG is such a fan of putting other people's quotes in his signature, I might have to follow suit <whistle>
     
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  13. chelsea - over 100 years of history

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  14. Thanks, 100 <ok>

    I'm not too fussed about Mourhino moving to you guys, it's just that I am deeply surprised that he was passed over for the United job, especially in favour of Moyes. And I'm not in the minority, in that regard; you only have to look at the media storm and the comments of many United fans to see that. Still, if he's not going to either United or £ity, I'd rather have him at CFC than not be in the EPL, as his flamboyance is very welcome.

    Having said all of that, does anyone honestly see Moyes lasting at United? Sure, they'll give him at least two, probably three, seasons, but there will come a point at which those paying the wages at United will say to Fergie, "look, we know he's your mate, but he's not up to the job, and he has to go."

    In the meantime, I have little doubt that Mourhino will do something great for you, either winning you the EPL title or a major trophy, and it will be only a matter of time before the fans' clamour that he be installed at United is finally heard.
     
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  15. chelsea - over 100 years of history

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    I'm not sure whether Moyes is the safe option or the risky one?

    There's no doubt he has a similar style and attitude as Fergie and wont be bothered working under Fergie, wont cause unrest at the club, professional etc. But to hand the reigns of arguably the biggest job in football to someone whose only won a div 2 title with Preston and never managed in top level Europe is surely a massive gamble.

    Personally I think he will do fine in the league, may even win the title next year. However when he comes up against tactical masters in Europe like a Jose, Ancelotti, Hiddink etc that's when we will see if it's a good appointment or not.

    I'm suprised Jose was over looked but United must have felt the baggage and short termism wasn't worth it. Fair play to them hiring a British manager again; but then this was a guy Spurs didn't want last year nor apparently us this summer. Have to assume Klopp turned them down as surely he is the outstanding candidate all things considered.

    I still think Jose to us is contingent on top 4 but with the United and Bayern jobs both having come and gone, perhaps Jose's reputation is catching up with him and he is perhaps going to be more suited to clubs like us, PSG etc who strive for short term goals. I wouldn't be suprised if he has 2-3 years with us then takes the Portugal job.
     
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  16. Fair assessment, 100.

    I agree that it's Mourhino's attitude that may have cost him. Every club he's been at, he has been the focus of attention and mainly of his own making and self-engrandisement, which has never been the United way.

    Personally, I think it shows that United are living in the past, when good managers were prepared to commit their entire careers to one club. Today's top managers are as mercenary as today's players, and I do not believe that Moyes is in that category, proof of which is the fact that no major club before United has attempted to ply for his trade. "Safe" may have been the norm back in the 60s and 70s, but it certainly isn't the norm today, when success is king. There are very few managers in the game that can guarantee success to a club: Mourhino falls into that very select group, Moyes most certainly does not.

    I think it speaks something of the arrogance of United, that it believes that its the club that gains the success, and not the manager. The club is almost saying that it doesn't really matter which manager is in place, and that United will succeed whoever it is. Let's face it, if they think Moyes will enable them to dominate the EPL and win things in Europe, then there are probably at least 30 or 40 managers in the world who could do exactly the same job, including AVB, who at least has the advantage of having won a domestic league title and a European trophy, which is something that Moyes does not have on his current CV.
     
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  17. chelsea - over 100 years of history

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    True, AVB's CV in terms of winning is far greater than Moyes. There is also the fact with Moyes that he won't be on much money compared to Fergie or other 'top' managers and they've also had to pay nothing to sign him. On that basis it's a risk, but certainly a low cost risk.

    I actually feel a little sorry for Moyes. Great chance for him but at the same time, this has to be the hardest managerial job to take on, possibly ever, given the success of the man he's taking over. He knows he'll never match Fergie achievements for a start and coming in as manager of the champions, he'll be immediately expected to win things; regardless of what the board or their fans are saying now.

    If say they are 10 points off City come March/April you can bet your life the glory hunters will be calling for his head.
     
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    Difficult one to read, Moyes and Man Utd. They are a Club with solid foundations and a very good long term plan in place. It will be interesting to see if he keeps the standards up, and/or if in fact the manager is as big a factor as the set up he works in. I think there are plenty of examples that question SAFs' tactical ability, but you can't question his eye for a player or his courage in letting apparently top players go. He definitely was a master of timing.
     
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  19. ChelseaCOE2012

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    HIAG -

    David Moyes was only offered the Manchester United job after Jose Mourinho rejected it, according to reports in Portugal.

    Newspaper Record claims Mourinho is certain to join Chelsea next season, and had already agreed to return to Stamford Bridge when he was offered a five-year contract to succeed Sir Alex Ferguson at United.

    The story is also carried by Spanish tabloid AS, which claims Mourinho's love of London played a pivotal part in his decision to reject United's advances.

    AS claims that "the English capital is the place where Mourinho's family wants to settle. His daughter is going to study there, and his wife has been seen in London over recent months.

    "Ultimately the preferences of his family were all that Mourinho needed to decide between Chelsea and United."
     
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  20. That's interesting, COE2012.

    If those claims are true, then I can only imagine that they didn't offer him sufficient incentives in other areas.

    Or, it could be a clever move by Mourhino not to be the first person in after SAF, and the first person to get sacked in the new era at United. Let's face it, whoever takes that job is odds-on onto a hiding to nothing.
     
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