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Mourinho...how long will he be given?

Discussion in 'Tottenham Hotspur' started by remembercolinlee, Jan 1, 2020.

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How long will he be given?

  1. Til we go out of the CL?

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  2. Til the end of the season?

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  3. Til next Oct/Nov?

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  4. Will be a success so irrelevant?

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  1. Spurlock

    Spurlock Homeboy
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    You’re trying to say he’s got no fire...you observed that at United too according to yourself...yet he delivered so much...your most successful post Fergie era manager.

    You all love Ole because he’s a home boy..doesn’t matter where he has you in the league..I guarantee you he will never get a United team to finish as high as 2nd...ever. He won’t even bag 2 trophies with you before his stint is up...but he’s got the fire.

    I know exactly the point you was trying to make...I just don’t buy it...I’m saying you’re biased. Most fans are when it comes to JM.

    Some of our own fans think he deserves the sack Yet he’s just got here but players deserve chance after chance after chance.
    For me, he’s at my club and I can tell he’s doing his best, he’s certainly not tossing it off like he’s waiting for a pay cheque...that stuff is pathetic. I seriously don’t know what you saw him doing at United.

    Maybe I imagined it but Uniteds record signing was tossing it off at United and stinking the place out...I saw that...yet Jose lost the fire...all bullshit bias

    We are talking about a few years ago...not a few decades ago
     
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  2. Treble

    Treble Keyser Söze

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    You're reading too much into what I said. I didn't want him sacked and I didn't say he didn't bring us trophies or anything like that.

    The convo was about his tactics and his football philosophy. My point is that there's nothing wrong with it. I've said that all along and to this day. I don't buy the lazy argument that the game has moved on or he's been left behind. Like somehow football was something different back then which is bollox. So how is that being negative? I'm actually backing him.

    But at the same time, there is something else and I can only go by what I observed at his time at different clubs especially Madrid and United - in his general attitude, his demeanor and the way he conducted himself both during the game and after it (at RM and United). And imo he has lost that eye of the tiger. There was a hunger about him which isn't there now. It's not a dig at Spurs, just my feeling about him. My thinking is, this is a man who was loved for the way he was, but like everyone that we build up we have to pull him down. And the media love playing their part. He went through a lot of mental **** and it was destructive at times rather than productive. He even gave an interview some time after leaving us talking about that and how it had burned him and how he was going to change.

    I've never disliked Mourhino. I followed Real Madrid when he was manager and always wanted him to get the better of Pep and Barca (respect them but never liked them). I've argued when every idiot who'd never watched a La Liga game would jump on the bandwagon that he played negative or never gave youth a chance, I would point out the players he was bringing through at Madrid at the time and the expansive football he was playing there or that Pep had spent more than him.

    It's not bias at all. That's just my observation of the bloke.
     
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  3. Spurlock

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    I understand what you mean...you’re right about the burn out...I recall him talking about it
     
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  4. bigsmithy9

    bigsmithy9 Well-Known Member

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    Don't forget,the Real,United,City,Chelsea,Liverpool teams have bought their trophies by paying over the odds transfer fees and wages,whilst others could not afford it.
    So it's nice to see the Wolves and Sheff United teams coming through and challenging......even Leicester!
     
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  5. Spurlock

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    Jose Mourinho has just launched a great defence of his management of Harry Kane.

    A brilliant response to Paul Merson’s comments over the weekend that “Kane wouldn’t score 25-30 goals a season" under him.

    Mourinho said: "Dear Paul, I have respect for you but I think Harry Kane has no problems at all to score goals in my teams."

    Seven goals Harry Kane has scored for Mourinho in 10 games before his injury. Not a bad average as he would say.


    Useless Goon pisshead
     
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  6. Billy The Spur

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    Mourinho went on to point out that he'd managed a bunch of other striker who scored loads of goals.

    Blackburn and West Ham flop Benni McCarthy got 25 in the 2003/04 season for Porto.
    Drogba scored 33 in Chelsea's 06/07 season.
    Ibrahimovic scored 29 for Inter in 08/09, then Milito bettered it the next season with 30.
    It's almost cheating to use Ronaldo at Real, but he scored 40, 46 and 34 in Mourinho's three seasons there.
    Ibrahimovic did it again at Utd, scoring 28. Lukaku followed it up with 27.

    Don't get me wrong, I often find Mourinho's teams overly negative and dull.
    To say that they don't score or that their strikers don't find the net is just inaccurate, though.
     
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    Seems Jose won trophies because he had special goalscorers. Lucky?....one wonders!
     
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    I might suggest that he has inherited a couple of fairly special ones at Spurs so maybe.....
     
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    Costa got 20 when Chelsea won the league in 14/15
     
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  11. Spurlock

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    Hazard got 38 in the league that season
     
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  12. Tilly'sowner

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    To those nay-sayers of the Jose appointment, have many of you changed your mind yet?
     
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  13. The RDBD

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    Not yet.
    Spanking teams such as Soton and Man Utd is not IMHO
    a divine sign of the return of the special one.

    Injury plagues aside, we will know a lot more on the above by mid december.
     
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  14. humanbeingincroydon

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    The main issue that remains is that we are still only capable of one good half of football per game

    Against Southampton it worked, as we were ****e in the first half but destroyed them in the second
    Against Newcastle it didn't, as we faded badly in the second half so a game we should have been home and dry in because an endurance test

    And this is the issue: if we're only playing for one half we need to be clinical for the time we're in control but we simply aren't, for example we should've been up by two or three goals by half time against Newcastle before sitting on the game but instead we were 1-0 up, went to sleep and then got undone by another referee who had their own interpretation of what a handball is

    I've been saying it for years, but what I want as a Spurs fan is a comfortable 2-0 win, with us leading at half time and then killing the game off with a second goal with at least twenty minutes on the clock - but the only time we've come close to that is against A North Macedonian Team, and every other game has either been orgasmic or a nervous breakdown, and that's not sustainable as the mid-90s Liverpool teams demonstrated a dozen times per season
     
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