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Discussion in 'Hull City' started by PLT, Nov 23, 2013.

  1. PLT

    PLT Well-Known Member

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    RE Brown I know it wasn't mistimed or anything but it was dangerous. He took a risk and got off lucky in getting the ball. He couldn't be sure Adam wasn't going to move to his left and be on the receiving end of that. It isn't about timing with this one, it's about throwing your body at someone, leading with a foot (or two) with a massive force concentrated into that foot and being applied to the player. It's a leg breaker. 5 years ago no one slide tackled from the front in real life, it was a daft thing you did on FIFA. Now people are doing it left, right and centre and this is why there's 'soft' red cards every week. You can tackle properly without just flying in at the front of someone. Slide challenges should only ever be from the side. That way at worst you take someone down.
     
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  2. mazzer

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    Utter rubbish
     
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  3. PLT

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    Great post. What an intelligent debate this is.
     
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  4. AKCJ

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    Like I said earlier, don't be so bloody daft.
     
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  5. PLT

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    Why is everyone so sure it was a wrong decision but are unable to debate it or explain why?
     
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  6. Hull City AFC (HCHKR)

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    Because he won the ball cleanly and was a great tackle.
     
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  7. PLT

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    That one Caulker just got booked for, that's a perfect example of a safe sliding challenge. It was mistimed and he buggered it up and brought Januzaj down but that was the worst case scenario because he came in properly from the side and all that happened was he tripped him. This modern nonsense of jumping straight at people from the front isn't like that, it risks someone's leg breaking every time you do it. It's totally stupid and unecessary. Just because you get lucky and do it without hurting someone that doesn't make it OK to dive in like that. It should be stopped. The refs are trying to stop it but players keep thinking they can do it. Offenders should be sent on courses to tackle properly like drivers are when they're caught speeding <laugh>
     
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  8. PLT

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    See above. He won the ball but it wasn't a clean or great tackle. It was wild, unecessary and demonstrated a lack of skill.
     
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  9. Amin Yapusi

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    Brown should never have been sent off. I think he was unlucky, it looks like he went in 2 footed and made a sort of stamping motion. PLT you're saying he shouldn't have gone to ground, what else could he do stand there & block tackle and guarantee the impact of 2 players running at force straight into each other, or not make the tackle when he had every right to. It was a great tackle.
     
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  10. PLT

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    It's just the force I don't like. Slide tackles should be for dispossessing an opponent out of reach, not for flying into each other on loose balls. I know he didn't touch Adam but look how far past Adam he ends up sliding. They end up about 6 yards apart because of the sheer momentum behind Brown. Where is that momentum going to go if he slides into Adam's leg? It's weird because it probably wasn't a foul yet it was very dangerous. Two players running at each other isn't dangerous but either or both of them jumping in (it isn't even sliding it's jumping feet first at an opponent) is very dangerous and is how legs get broken time and time again. It's always the same kind of tackle that results in these injuries. I don't see how they can be defended. He has every right to make the tackle but doesn't need to jump into it. There must be some alternative because these jump tackles didn't exist 5 years ago, now everyone is at it.
     
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  11. Stuart Blampey

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    It might have been a great tackle 20 years ago - even 10. But not now.

    The interpretation of dangerous play has altered.

    You can no longer recklessly launch in regardless of whether you make contact or not.
     
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  12. mazzer

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    He did@nt jump into the tackle, he slid in his boots were not raised he took the ball cleanly and this kind of tackle is not somrthing new it has been used for years and has always been deemed as perfectly legal.
     
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  13. AKCJ

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  14. John Ex Aberdeen now E.R.

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  15. Amin Yapusi

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    Brown doesn't even charge into that tackle, he just drops to the floor to avoid a full on collision, he's practically standing still. I really fail to see any danger there.
     
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  16. PLT

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    Fair enough it is more of a slide than a jump so not as bad as I thought. I still don't like players doing that from the front though, I still think if he hit Adam he'd have hurt him.
     
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  17. Amin Yapusi

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    I think I can see why he got sent off, I'm not sure where the ref is but I assume not close and in the same line of sight as that camera on the replay AKCJ posted. From a different angle and distance it could easily look like Brown jumped in and did a 2 footed stamp to win the ball.
     
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    The time has come.
     
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