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Discussion in 'Leeds United' started by ellandback, Apr 19, 2012.

  1. ristac

    ristac Well-Known Member
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    I would be totally pissed off if ANY signing Warnock made wasn't his number one choice for that position in which he was signed. The team we have now is not good enough, NW needs to bring in better quality players who over the course of a season will put in more effort, grind out better results and a promotion push.

    How many times this season have we debated the defence and who is our best back 4? Truth is they are all awful or they are all equally as good or as bad as one another, we need players to join who are first down on the team sheet, who we as fans recognise as being vital to the team no debate about it.
     
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  2. Whitejock

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    That's what I was trying to say, Ristac. Glad you were more articulate than me.
     
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  3. Logi_Lufc

    Logi_Lufc Well-Known Member

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    Our squads filled with players of a similar, below average standard. Thats why its hard to pick a 1st XI. Cos theyre all equally **** <laugh>

    We need more match winners. And thats both leaders at the back to get clean sheets, and creativity going forward
     
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  4. Jerel Ifil

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    Rubbish. Don't tell me these three groups of players are all at the same level.
     
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  5. 666 & Elmo

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    Bates - you've not got as much control over your stupid underlings and your coists as you would like to think then.

    Half a million for a 6 month contract for a player who was unfit and injured when he arrived? You should have been able to see that would be the cost before you signed it off - criminal Bates and Harvey! What really happened is that you, Bates, panicked because you were unable to attract players.

    Get out of our club.
     
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  6. 666 & Elmo

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    I don't rate Becchio or Lees up there Iqbal and put them as decent backup but only if there are certain players alongside them

    White is still young and now needs to kick on and improve

    Snodgrass needs to put in more in training on three areas: speed of feet and thought, more accuracy in his crossing (he's got to beat the first defender more!), and crossing earlier to catch the opposition on the hop

    Clayton - very much like White - needs to start kicking on and controlling that midfield - he seemed to have a 15-20 game lull mid-season

    McCormack got to improve his speed to be able to get behind defenders

    Becchio (if playing or his replacement), McCormack and players like Clayton and White (if played midfield) must be able to get into the box quicker to get on the end of earlier crosses from Snodgrass


    There's a lot that each of your list must do to improve and unless they do, they are all in the second bracket of players I'm afraid - but every one has the potential to be better
     
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  7. Logi_Lufc

    Logi_Lufc Well-Known Member

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    It was abit of a joke ffs. Obviously there are 4 or 5 good players <ok>

    But then bromby, bruce, connolly, pugh, forsell, paynter, nunez, sam, odea, obrien, webber, rachubka etc are all below the standard required
     
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  8. Jerel Ifil

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    Of course they have potential to be better - they're playing in the second division for a reason! The first bracket was 'first team Championship standard players', and all of them fit comfortably in that category. If they had no room for improvement, they'd be in a group above that one, or more likely, in the Premier League.

    Sorry, my online sarcasm sensors have never been up to scratch. <laugh> Don't take it personally.

    They're below first team standard, but some of them can still be useful reserves. I don't buy that you can get promotion with a 20-man squad; you need strength in the first team and depth to back it up.
     
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  9. Logi_Lufc

    Logi_Lufc Well-Known Member

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    No worries mate.

    Yeah but squad players have to be able to come into the team every now and again and make a difference. Paynter 1 goal, Fossil 0 goals, Webber 0 goals, Nunez 1 goal

    bromby, bruce, pugh and nunez only ones worth keeping at all
     
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  10. 666 & Elmo

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    My concern is that they all show such fundamental weaknesses that I would not place any in the Championship First Team bracket and I really want to see them putting in the effort on the training pitch that shows they understand they need to improve to help the team to improve.

    Beckham used to stay behind and kick balls at a golf flag to get his crossing even better despite it being so good already - I don't hear of any of our players having the desire to practise practise practise

    That dedication is what I want to see, or what I want to see implemented by the boss.
     
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  11. Whitejock

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    I keep hearing people wondering about White's best position.

    Me? On the positive side, I think he's fast. That's about it.

    On the downside, he can't consistently tackle, cross, go past people, tackle or pass. It's a hit or a miss every time he plays & mirrors the team's inconsistent performances. I can't see him as first team material next season under NW. It's a bit promotion push season and we can't have his inconsistency. Time for the big boys to play.
     
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  12. ellandback

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    Weren't all these free transfers. Grayson made some awful signings but lets not forget about the gems like Clayton, Snodgrass (I think) and Gradel.
     
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  13. Josh-LUFC

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    just get behind the club will ya.....
     
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  14. Logi_Lufc

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    Snodgrass was McCallisters signing
     
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  15. Josh-LUFC

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    He didn't sign Snodgrass, that was Macca
     
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  16. MarkoLUFC

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    I'm sending a jack in a box with a boxing glove in it to Australia or wherever you're living now.
     
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  17. MarkoLUFC

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    Snodgrass is showing signs of deteriorating in a similar way to how Gradel did shortly before he was sold. He was unsure of his future at the club because the club were showing **** all desire to keep him, I fear Snodgrass is heading the same way.
     
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  18. Logi_Lufc

    Logi_Lufc Well-Known Member

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    Snodgrass hasnt got a chance of fulfilling his potential in this team. He just gets 2 or 3 men on him cos we have few other threats unlike last year when gradel was bombing down the other wing and howson driving down the centre
     
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  19. MarkoLUFC

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    Exactly. Logi. We had the deadliest attack in the league last season. Snodgrass has been ineffective because he just gets marked out of games and we have no one to take advantage of the extra space on the other wing and down the centre as a result. Gradel used to make laughing stocks of fullbacks before coolly putting the ball in the net, scoring more goals from the wing than most of the Championship's strikers. Snodgrass was the assist king, given the space to create as he does best, again tearing apart the opposition. And when those two were dealt with, you have Jonny Howson screaming down the centre like a steam train, one instance of what Howson did down the centre that has always stuck with me as it's a perfect example, his goal against Forest at Elland Road last season. Straight down the middle, despite having plenty of players on him he made it look like he'd gone through unopposed before making a classy finish with a light touch. Brilliant.
     
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  20. Josh-LUFC

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    <laugh>.
     
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