Supers, I think you really need to say how you feel and don't hold back! Quick question supers, have you ever boo'ed a manager of Norwich?
People who swear at other posters for having a different viewpoint are the real dickheads in my opinion (and I say this from a position of neutrality regarding the 'debate')
oh i did hold back! in answer to your question, no guru. i let out a boo during worthy's last game in charge but i wasn't booing any individual, i was booing the extraordinary mess we'd found ourselves in! i've never booed one of our players or managers - why would i boo someone who is representing my team, no matter how rubbish they are? i still want them to be successful otherwise my team is crap and i spend all week miserable. what annoys me is this assumption that because we pay our money it gives fans the right to abuse our own staff - well it doesn't. these guys are doing their job - they are not superheroes, they are humans and they can't perform like robots. they make mistakes, they feel unwell, they have injuries, they have problems in their private lives, they have issues with wives or girlfriends, mothers and fathers, some are hiding their sexuality, some have kids who are ill... just because they are footballers earning big money does not mean they aren't any different to any one of us. if i stood infront of you in the crowd giving you an earful for 90 minutes, you'd probably get quite angry too, and you sure as hell wouldn't want to try your best for that person.
I, personally, don't believe it is acceptable to dish out abuse to a player, or even 'boo' that player when he is on the pitch. I do believe it is acceptable, however, for someone to come on to a forum, and be able to give an opinion about a player without being shot down in flames. As long as they give an explaination as to why they don't think 'x' is good enough, or 'y' shouldn't be in the team, what's wrong with that? That is what a debate is all about, and why this forum exists.
apologies gandy and anyone else for my outburst earlier. it was unnecessary but believe me when i say it was brewing for some time.
I can honestly say i've never boo'd anyone. Gone home kicked the cat (metaphorically speaking) sworn about it, ranted with mates down the pub, made a few posts on forums (fora??) but never boo'd on the day
Fair comment, and I have to say I would side with your opinion, but I do respect other views, and I hold some of those 'dissidents' in high regard.
Somehow, this piece seems strangely and remarkably relevant - I wonder if the author is a contributor on this forum? Regardless of peoples stance on the 'getting behind your team' versus 'booing' argument, a worthwhile read for each and every one of us http://www.norwich.vitalfootball.co.uk/sitepage.asp?a=280351
I can't believe this. He gets criticised week in week out and then you expect him to applaud the fans that are criticising him? Madness! I've said this over and over again on this thread but the player needs encouragment and support from the fans. Then he will improve. Maybe he will then feel like staying behind and applauding the fans. In any line of work if someone is criticised they won't always work as well as they should. But, if they are praised and encouraged despite doing poorly they may then improve. Someone who is motivated will perform better.
great article cromer, thanks for posting. agree with it word for word and collymore's tweet, "Anyone can support a guy or team when they are winning. Support the man when he's struggling, that`s the only mark of a true fan" is exactly what i've been trying to say on this thread, albeit a little too rudely
I have boo'd before at Carrow Road and make no apology for it. It was the infamous 4-1 defeat to Burnley, the day Nigel Worthington finally got the chop, and well deserved at that time. It may not have all been his fault but it did seem clear that he had lost the respect of many of the players, who simply made no apparent effort to draw the game, never mind win it. My blood was boiling at such a woeful performance that day and Worthington got the brunt of it. If anyone thinks I am a bad supporter of the club for that action then basically I don't give a rats arse. I was not ashamed at the time and I am not ashamed to admit it to you lot. I even admitted it to Nigel Worthington face to face a few years later! He actually took my comments really well and had no ill feeling towards me, he accepted it was part of the job and he knew he was failing quite spectacularly and made an apology for for what happened at that time. Moving on to Morison. If he is not making the effort then it is inevitable he is going to get verbally abused by some but it is not my place to criticise those that do it. I feel it is their right to voice their concerns, however not everyone is articulate enough to do so in a pleasant way.
and thats down to their personality, and morison is not a strong personality and needs support to succeed - others you can give a rollicking to and you'll get a good reaction, others need time and patience and a bit of care. why that trait is viewed by some as being somehow a sign of weakness or not being good enough is beyond me. we all react to circumstance in different ways, some suit us better than others. but giving him stick is never ever going to work, you'll just force him out as well as annoy people he works closely with
The only time I can remember booing at a Norwich game - apart from the ref or opposition player - was the FA Cup Semi-Final against Sunderland at H'Boro in 1992. I was absolutely gutted after that game but my boo - which lasted about two seconds - was quickly taken over by a massive sense of disappointment. We totally bottled that game and Robert Fleck should never of stepped in that stupid oxygen tent to try and get fit for it. His worst game for us by a country mile! To this day, I still get mad when I think about it
I really don't mind being called a dick head. I've been called worse believe me. Funnily enough it was in front of 12,500 union members who thought I was doing a crap job. And although I disagreed with what they were shouting at me, I accepted it because that is what emotion is. But I wasn't arrogant enough to think they were completely wrong and what I was telling them wasn't anything more than a view or a position. And we reached a compromise. So can we finally get this straight. Personally, I have never booed a Norwich player, official etc. I have never screamed abuse at one of our players. I did shout out "Its not working Nigel" when we went three one down at Plymouth because his substitutions had made it worse. I have never left a game early. I have sung OTBC (properly, not the modern version) so many times, even when I now have to sit at home and watch it on the internet. But I reserve the right to come on here and criticise Morison, Lambert, Supers or whoever if I fell they are not up to scratch or I disagree with their opinion. Otherwise I might as well live in Syria.
Can someone pick up the baby's toys please? He seems to have thrown them all out of his pram. Very grown up of you Superman! I guess this is showing your true colours, 'I can't get my own way' so I'll rant and rave and swear at people. There's no sense, reason or logic to what you've written, just a small minded person having a temper tantrum! ILD OTBC
