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i_cant_believe_its_not_butterfield

i_cant_believe_its_not_butterfield

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http://www.football365.com/southampton/7322693/Painter-claims-ref-Walton-swore

"Painter told The Sun: "We watched it back and it was way outside the area - how he's come to that decision I don't know.

"You are going to make a point of disagreeing with the decision. Week-in, week-out you see it, language is used and, to me, that's football.

"Maybe Tano's temper got the better of him and maybe he got sent off for using language he shouldn't. But are refs allowed to talk to us in the same fashion?

"If Tano got sent off for using language, it's the same situation - although obviously the ref can't send himself off.

"He spoke to me in that way - it was language you wouldn't expect from a referee. I don't understand that if he can send someone off, how can he use it?"


Thoughts?
 
mealy mouthed, mean spirited little f**ckers. At least with Pompey they give it a go and any fouls / bookings come from a genuine desire to win... I love the rivalry with Pompey and always will... I just now think Brighton are a sh*tty little team.

They are like the awful kid at school who pull pigtails, pinches and kicks in sandpit then goes complaining to teacher cause one of the boys punched them back. I was prepared to give Poyet the benefit but after that result and the brighton comments, I hope they go back down. I will now be cheering on Pompey when they play Brighton...
 
So it's ok for players to swear and abuse the ref but not the other way round...

Tbh it shouldn't happen at all, and I respect Walton for giving Tarrico the terrible a straight red!

If this were done more in the Premier League then it would soon cut it out, although John Terry would probably still get sent off every week; te argumentative tw**.
 
For those who want to hear Poyet's and his teams take, don't forget that those who subscribe to the Saintsplayer can use their login on the Seagullsplayer. Obviously, you have to remember that it will be partisan, but it is interesting to hear the bleating, er, I mean analysis.
 
I find it strange that Painter was interviewed for comments, seeing as he committed at least 2 stonewall penalties against Lambert, 1 in either half. Both of, in which he was so intent on stopping Rickie that the ball became an obsolete consideration.
 
Poyet and his players need to put down the spade and stand away from the hole. They are making themselves a laughing stock. We were talking about it last night in the pub, All fans whinge about bad decisions (we love it!) but in the cold light of day you have to ask yourself if the right team won. There was an offside thread on here a couple of weeks ago where the Van Nistelrooy "offside" winner was discussed. What most of us have conveniently forgotten is that the goal came from a free kick that should have been a penalty, and that the scoreline of 3-2 flattered us as we were battered. Brighton were given a battering, and the ref should not only have given us penalties for the Lambert assaults the second should have been a red card. If Poyet et al would stop whinging they'd realise that a lot of football fans could admire their achievement in getting Brighton back into the championship and being real contenders. Instead we come out with stuff like we'll support Pompey when they play Brighton. There's a guy who gets into our pub occasionally whom I recognise as a fellow southerner. He joins in the footie chat but has never declared his allegiance. We pushed him on it and he sheepishly admitted to being a Brighton fan but was ashamed to admit it because of Poyet - and this was before Saturday! However low your team sinks you shouldn't have to feel ashamed of them. Quite an achievement, Mr Poyet.
 
Adkins once said in an aside that Poyet lacked class. For Nigel, that is the equivalent of being involved in a bar brawl as he tends to keep such comments to himself. Despite the size of the chip on his shoulder, Poyet was right about the Fonte penalty and no one is arguing about that. However, Brighton had no shot on target so they were never going to win. That's the stat he should be concentrating on.
 
I suppose what they are really saying is that but for that penalty goal they would have got something out of the game. That really is clutching at straws. Especially as it would have meant they would have had to make a game of it. Any team that has come here to try and win have gone home heavily defeated. So we could just as easily argue yes but to win Brighton would have had to play less defensively therefore increasing our chances of getting more goals from open play. So Poyet you plonker it can work both ways. One final point....you have to get balls on target to get goals even to get a lucky deflection it has to go in the general direction of the goal........Shots on target......0 shots off target 4?
 
One thing I love about Nigel is his respect towards the officials and the demand for his players to do the same. We have had a few decisions go against us this season and if he thinks the decision was wrong then he will point it out but he won't blame it on the outcome.

e.g. the Derby goal was offside earlier in the season but Nigel put the result down to us not keeping the ball well enough in the 1st half and not being clinical enough infront of goal in the 2nd. Many managers like Poyet use the officials to protect their players following a defeat but that attitude seems to reflect the discipline at the club. Brighton have the worst yellow/red card count in the league, whilst Saints are around the lowest.

Plus Brighton came here for a draw and when you play for small margins then you're more likely to suffer a defeat to a marginal decision.
 
When Deano was clattered by the GK, he was probably incensed to have received a booking, but because he didnt throw his toys out of the pram, was accused of knowing that he had dived! Watching the replay he had a good case for a Penalty, many Referees would have given it, I reckon this one bottled it and used the yellow card as a get out cause, he didn't want to send the GK off. Just my opinion, as I see it.
 
The Brighton Management as a whole should take responsibility for the defeat they suffered.

Firstly: their tactics were wrong - after 30 mins I became convinced we were going to win because you cannot go to a ground where the home side have won 19 'on the bounce' at home; are five points clear at the top; highest goal scorers in that league; yet you expect to get something from the game with 11 players behind the ball and playing deep in your own half. You cannot expect to hang on for 90 mins...

Secondly; the assistant manager got himself sent off. It was still 1-0 when the penalty was given, the penalty might have been missed - yet you have put yourself out of the match by reducing your numbers on the pitch - what was good about the 'management' of that situation?

Thirdly; what management occurred of the players thereafter? Change of tactics - motivation provided to play more attacking football, some strategy to get you back in the game? Nothing! Poor management again.

Brighton punched above their weight last season; did so earlier this season and now reality has hit home. As the Mail Online wrote; Brighton need to think about consolidation this season [and forget about being promotion material]. So should their players and their fans.

Finally, for Poyet to state he did not want to discuss anything after the first 55 mins was pathet
 
They would have a point...if footballers were sent off at the first uttering of a swear word. Of course, they are not. I swear when I referee, but I don't tell anyone to "f**k off you cheating c**t", because when a 38 year old Argie who played a few games for Spurs (for example) says it back to me, it makes me a bit of a hypocrite when I send him off. There is a difference between swearing and abusing the referee - only one of them is worth a red card.
 
I'm so glad that the ref sent Tarrico off for bad language...If referees manned up then and started showing cards for these kind of things then it would cut it out so quickly.
 
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