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Forbes McAllister said:
Anyway, half time so....


Life is certain out there. Possibly/probably even in the hellish atmosphere of Venus. 'Intelligent' life? I mean there's the Drake equation that postulates it must be all over the show, but I have a problem, and it's Darwin.

Take this planet - 'Intelligence' has evolved in several animals, the primates being not the only ones. Sure, we send rockets to the moon (we do, Dude), computers, writing and microwave chips, but why does 'intelligence' need to evolve, and why would that intelligence then go on to manipulate its environment (whales and dolphins don't, and they have brains bigger than ours).

So what is the most successful species on this planet? Cockroaches? And if life have evolved on other planets, teeming in variety, why does intelligence need to evolve, and why would it evolve like us if it did? The universe could be choc-a-block with cockroaches and worms perfectly happy eeking out their living and seeing no need to evolve anymore, like growing a second head when there's no need.

Then again - look up the Anthropic Principle. All this exists, and only ever has done, because we are here to observe and experience it. Yeah, back to religion and inventing God so he can make us in His image.

And 'My God it's full of stars!". Validation please! <cry>
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We assume(d) that for life to flourish on other planets, it would need similar conditions to ours. I.e life would need (1) oxygen (2) sunlight (3) water.

But discoveries of life that thrives deep under the oceans, where sunlight cannot reach, inside vents that spew sulphuric acid has thrown that theory into the scrap pile of narrow postulation.

Life it seems, can take many different guises and thrive in all sorts of environments. Which suggests that there could be all sorts of weird and wonderful life out there in the universe.
 
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PISKIE said:
We assume(d) that for life to flourish on other planets, it would need similar conditions to ours. I.e life would need (1) oxygen (2) sunlight (3) water.

But discoveries of life that thrives deep under the oceans, where sunlight cannot reach, inside vents that spew sulphuric acid has thrown that theory into the scrap pile of narrow postulation.

Life it seems, can take many different guises and thrive in all sorts of environments. Which suggests that there could be all sorts of weird and wonderful life out there in the universe.
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Indeed, many see this is where life started on this planet.
 
PISKIE said:
We assume(d) that for life to flourish on other planets, it would need similar conditions to ours. I.e life would need (1) oxygen (2) sunlight (3) water.

But discoveries of life that thrives deep under the oceans, where sunlight cannot reach, inside vents that spew sulphuric acid has thrown that theory into the scrap pile of narrow postulation.

Life it seems, can take many different guises and thrive in all sorts of environments. Which suggests that there could be all sorts of weird and wonderful life out there in the universe.
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Crocodiles didn't they outlive dinosaurs, well until humans came along.
 
Tobes said:
Just a thought like like, but whilst I find the idea of intelligent life on other planets in the Universe extremely likely.

For us to have contact with them, they’d have had to have cracked travelling at the speed of light of faster, which is a tad of a long shot given it’s 6.7BN miles per hour lol.

Also having done so, and arrived here at a planet with life on it, after travelling for maybe thousands or even millions of years (keep up at the back) , the best thing they could think to do was to make some shapes in a corn field then ****ing off again.

It’s a no from me.
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You don't necessarily need to break the speed of light, an alien civilisation could've cracked wormhole technology
 
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I'm not sure if ppl have paid much attention to this at the end of MIB but it's quite profound and I expect if aliens exist, the situation is more like this...

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Except I expect it'll be more like some creature opening their fridge, discover a chunk of cheese (basically our universe) they'd forgotten about yonks ago, has gone mouldy, pull a face, say "ew!" and basically chuck us in the bin.

Anyway I believe in God, creation, the works and we have no idea what other dimensions we cannot even begin to understand are out there.
 
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Treble said:
I'm not sure if ppl have paid much attention to this at the end of MIB but it's quite profound and I expect if aliens exist, the situation is more like this...

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Except I expect it'll be more like some creature opening their fridge, discover a chunk of cheese (basically our universe) they'd forgotten about yonks ago, has gone mouldy, pull a face, say "ew!" and basically chuck us in the bin.

Anyway I believe in God, creation, the works and we have no idea what other dimensions we cannot even begin to understand are out there.
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Caveman probably couldn't have begun to understand electricity, but if you could travel through time and take a babe in arms and bring it up in our world/time it would take electricity for granted. But if you took an adult Kustard back in time to the Stone Age, he'd still be the dunce in the corner.
 
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Forbes McAllister said:
Caveman probably couldn't have begun to understand electricity, but if you could travel through time and take a babe in arms and bring it up in our world/time it would take electricity for granted. But if you took an adult Kustard back in time to the Stone Age, he'd still be the dunce in the corner.
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I expect he'll still be seeing illegal immigrants and filthy foreigners everywhere.
 
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Worst type of ****s are them who go all ‘yeh but then how did...yeh but then how...yeh but then’ until they stumble across a ‘yeh but what about’ that you can’t answer because the question was just pathetic in the first place that there is just no point in it because ultimately, there is no way to disprove some of these things either, it’s just a case of what you are able to comprehend and possibly digest in life
 
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Big Ern said:
You don't necessarily need to break the speed of light, an alien civilisation could've cracked wormhole technology
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Which is nothing more than human theory and about as likely.
 
Some of the stuff quantum physicists are taking seriously nowadays, is ****ing mind blowing. Multiverse Theory, Super-Determinism, Entanglement; this is not the work of cranks, all this stuff has credibility in senior academic circles. Add to that the proven existence of Dark Matter and Dark Energy (we still don’t know what they are, but we see the effect they have on light), and you would actually be a fool to dismiss anything in science or nature as impossible.
 
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Archers Road said:
Some of the stuff quantum physicists are taking seriously nowadays, is ****ing mind blowing. Multiverse Theory, Super-Determinism, Entanglement; this is not the work of cranks, all this stuff has credibility in senior academic circles. Add to that the proven existence of Dark Matter and Dark Energy (we still don’t know what they are, but we see the effect they have on light), and you would actually be a fool to dismiss anything in science or nature as impossible.
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the matrix
 
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