I would rather monk be offered a rolling contract than a firm 2 year contract but its the boards choice so who am i to say any different..
I was quite happy when Monk came in and didnt have an issue with it or the removal of Laudrup. But I thought and hoped that it was only short term or till the end of the season. Initially there seemed to be an improvement in shape of play and commitment. However, we now seemed to have gone backwards. I know we beat Villa 4-1 but can anyone really say the perormance was good and saturday was one of the worst i have seen. What concerned me was not only the lack of effort ( which can be put down as end of season and safe), but what was more concerning was our shape, Why were we so Narrow leaving acres of space on each wing for them just to runa ta us when ever they felt. The playing of JDG on the wing is staggering when we have a quality natural winger on the bench. I fell a lot of GM desicion making has been poor IMO. I fear for next season if he is given the job and we continue with the shape we are playing with now. I just hope that there will be 3 worse teams/managers than us next year. I worry that GM has never had to build a team, which he will inevitably have to do with the turmoil behind the scenes and the amount of players leaving. We have tried this once before with Cussack (I know it was league2) and it failed and we nearly lost our league status. I cant help but feel that HJ has decided that cheepest is best yet again. I hope he doesnt get the job purely on what i have seen this season and his lack of any managerial experience. I know we could sign an experieneced manager and he could fail. But would rather go this way than take the chance with my club the board seem to be doing. It appears my info was wrong with regard to the new manager, but thats how it goes. I only lost a £10 just hope our boards desicion doesnt lead to all of us loosing an awful lot more.
Well Dai, you are the same as everyone here - living in a free country and on a forum which is a place to express opinions and ideas. That's who you are to say different. Just because someone makes a decision - doesn't mean you shouldn't object.
I'm not sure that when it comes to choosing a manager the board want to go for cheap options. I think Huw is fed up of fighting big-name managers and their interfering agents and especially managers who have had an illustrious playing career but prove not to be great man managers. Brendan was the best thing since sliced bread for the board. A great man-manager, the players loved him and he bought into the club's philosophy. Huw has had his fingers burned with Laudrup/Tutumlu and that's why Monk has been appointed IMO. Someone said yesterday that Monk will be Huw's "puppet". That's a tad harsh but contains a large element of truth which will suit the board fine right now, I would imagine.
Not huws puppet but someone who is a firm believer in huws philosophy...there is a big difference... Our philosophy was working and working well then why change it like laudrup did. All monk has done is to bring the club back into line of the clubs ways. Its a good thing and it works for us. You have to understand where the club is coming from and when you do it will become clear on why certain decisions were made. Huw don't know if monk will be a success or not like anyone else can but he does know that monk knows the club inside out so therefor i can understand perfectly well why monk has got the job....will it work...who knows but we will find out next season...
Your post is right on the money aswan. But not wishing to reopen an argument that's been flogged to death but IF Laudrup changed everything and IF that involved getting rid of the practices that were established here (and I'm not saying that's true) it kinda worked didn't it? First Cup win and best season ever, though I accept it went tits up afterwards. If I was on the Board I'd be saying whatever we were doing last season can we have more of the same please? Forget what we did before and certainly forget what we did afterwards because THAT'S the season we need to replicate, and sorry but it was Laudrup in charge at that time whether anyone likes it or not.
The ones Huw did get on with didn't stay around either. Garry in charge of a Premier League Club with very limited Premier League experience and no managerial experience is very different from Roberto coming into a mid table, third division, club and with a long declared aim of becoming a manager. The more I consider the position the less confident I am that we can grow as a club. Is this a pay off for Garry Monk? 6 months in it's goodbye Garry, thanks and here's a wad of severance pay? Both Laudrup and Sousa, it seems, fell out with Huw Jenkins over goal scorers. Once is an event twice is a pattern. In the past three seasons Sousa's teams have average an average of 40+ in their seasons - not exactly defence minded and not big spenders either. Personally, I'd have him back in a heartbeat if we had Bony and / or a fit Michu next season. And if some of the players didn't like him? Sorry, but after this season I've hardened my position, the club is here for the fans not the players.
Surely the biggest concern is lack of any experience and the fact that he doesnt seem to have been looking to be a manager in the near future as he hasnt taken his coaching badges. You dont have to go with big named players or managers with big ego. I would like someone with managerial experience not necessarily top league experience. Someone who has put a team together, through keeping current players and signing right ones to compliment our existing playing staff. Somone who has the ability to pit his knowledge of tactics against othe Pl managers. I am sorry to say I dont feel GM has any experience in any of those areas. He will be out thought by most managers in our league. Bob sasys the club is here for the fans not the players. So if that is the case please can the board listen to them and not make the biggest mistake they are likely to make. It is quite sad that if he is announced as manager i will be dreading next season. I will be behind him and the side. But i fear the worst
" It is quite sad that if he is announced as manager i will be dreading next season. I will be behind him and the side. But i fear the worst " Sums up many fans' feelings
We shouldn't forget what happened afterwards because THAT disaster happened and shouldn't be allowed to happen again .
Wow that's clever. Not saying we didn't have a problem with that part of the Laudrup era, in fact I refer to it directly, but a 'disaster'? Hardly. We were drifting and I accept that. No more of a disaster than some shocking displays since under Monk. But people seem to conveniently forget that Laudrup got a lot right up to and including the Cup Final. He's gone now and we should all get behind Monk but yes, THAT'S what we should be aiming for imo and although it's all about opinions here I'd find it hard for anyone to say otherwise. It's not rocket science to want to aspire to replicate the best season we've ever had.
At least Laudrup had hard games and injuries to point at, Jenkins had to look at a healthy team and a easing shedule as things stayed the same.
I have no issues looking forward, but my reply was directed at your opinion that we only look at the good times he was here and pretend the bad times didn't happen. That is not a fair way to bring across your point and we need to learn from mistakes instead of brushing them under carpets.
. If monk is manager we will struggle but he gets my full support even though he is massively under qualified for the job and has apparently split the dressing room in record time . Maybe a return to what monk knows best is the way forward maybe not, we can only wish him all the luck in the world,which everyone will. We saw arsenal play with heart with nothing to play for the other day,we saw Newcastle do it in fact many teams had nothing to play for,like stoke for example but all played for the supporters and manager,why didn't our boys appear to do that against Southampton? It's not unreasonable after the season we have had to give a bit to the fans at home in the last game, they could have played with freedom and enjoyed it but for some reason it didn't work out that way. All things considered we are as inconsistent now as we have been for a while ,people say we have got better but results and overall performance stats don't back this up, we have swapped with the same thing! IMO we have gained favor with some players and lost out with others,so just the same position as it was before really. My view was that the board panicked us into a relegation battle but things don't seem to be quite right down there for a while. What we have got now is from the board down to the manager pointing in the same direction, it's a job only half done,next is to get all the players focussed and pointing in the right direction,I'm not convinced that will happen, if monk moves on certain players he will need to be very good at bringing in the right ones to complement us, this will make us or break us. I think JDG will go,I think bony will go, poz,can as and maybe michu will go, I've no idea how we will replace the goals if that happens, I wish Garry well but it's a tough ask, I think we would have achieved exactly the same if Curtis was in charge myself but we do know Garry has the drive and ambition to do his best,time will tell if it's gonna be good enough .
Are you forgetting Napoli x 2, Everton x 2 away twice, Liverpool away, Arsenal away, Stoke away, Chelsea, Newcastle away and Southampton. That run is about as hard as it gets quite frankly, coupled with injured players and Canas, Poz etc. But as some say, a nice easier run
Monk is the manager guys so get use to it. The club knows better than any of us on whether they think monk can do the job. We are irrelevant in the matter and if they have given him the thumbs up then im afraid you have no choice...Not a big problem is it.
I think they have reluctantly accepted Monk in the man but they can't see why the Dane had to go, I am sure you as well are also thankful for the Cup win but after that it was looking like game over.
