Oh, I would never say that Laudrup and Sousa were failures. They were great for Swansea! But fans could feel that their heads weren't here, and in the end, that's why they both left the club. That what I was getting at when I mentioned the success rate. You won't need to say "I told you so" to me! I'm the kind of fan that says it how I see it. If Monk is failing by October, I'll be the one starting the thread criticising his managerial performance! I just don't feel that now is the time to be assessing whether he's good enough or not. He hasn't had a pre-season with the squad and he hasn't had a transfer window to enhance the squad. You may all be optimistic come the end of August after a few signings and some brilliant pre-season results. In my eyes, it just seems that people are being negative a little prematurely. We survived the PL with 2 games to spare! Wasn't there a point where people were suggesting that we wouldn't win another match?! It's always easier to be negative than positive. So do neither like me, be neutral and just enjoy the ride.
You said that of the last 3 in charge we only had a 33% success rate so that means they must have failed if they didnt succeed.
Calling him piss poor is a bit extreme. The guy stood out in the match against England and has been a consistent performer in a doomed Cardiff side. I won't let my Swansea heritage blind me to a good player when I see one, even if he is playing for the Redturds. Money does come into it, yes, and we're pretty well off. And according to recent statistics (I'll have to find the article if you really want me to), we actually pay pretty good wages as well, up there with other mid-table Premier League sides. But there are even more factors. How many players have we missed out on because of our geography? So far away from everything else, teams like Palace, Villa, West Brom and West Ham have better chances of landing players just for geographical location. Add Brighton to that list if they promote through the play-offs. Weather is another - and Swansea is one of the wettest cities in the UK. I hope that if a player doesn't come to Swansea, we don't just immediately blame Garry Monk, we have to realise that there is a much bigger picture.
Are you a journalist?! Stop twisting my words and read in context, man! If you read the whole of that paragraph, I was alluding to the fact that of the last 3, only one was a success when it came to truly immersing himself in the Swansea lifestyle. Not whether his Swansea team was successful on the pitch. Jeez, READ PROPERLY.
I did read it and you did say that. So that makes them a failure. But i think we wont get anywhere going back and for, so we will have to see what happens and hope I am wrong. As for Medel. I just dont rate him.
I never said that makes them a failure. I said they were good fits for Swansea, they both achieved relative success, but both came unstuck because they didn't immerse themselves in the Swansea way. Sousa left of his own accord, and Laudrup just lost interest over time. Doesn't make them a failure. You'll find that I said all of this if you backtrack. From my time debating with you, I can't help but feel that you live in a very black and white world where if something isn't, then it is. There is such thing as 'in between', you know. Anyway, agree to disagree on the Garry Monk appointment. Have a good evening.
Was he hell, he wanted Aspas, good job the board didn't listen otherwise we would have been stuck with two useless strikers this season.
I dont get the 3 year contract bit to be honest, I agree that he should be given the chance but i would have thought he would get the same deal as Rodgers first had and that was a One season rolling contract and see how he does, Its strange to give him anymore than that imo..
By giving him that it shows the board trust his ability and shows the club is stable with regards to prospective transfers etc.
I see it's all kicked off again! I was going to quote some other's points but can't be bothered now. You all make some good points (let's hope Garry can!) Most of us seem wary of this appointment and Monk's abilities but will all be behind him and the team come kick off. It's done now so let's give it a chance. He is, after all, a Jack at heart so give him the benefit of the doubt as he will have the best interests of the Club in mind. Pre season's going to be very interesting indeed. If it's a bad start to the season then I predict a few (lengthy) threads
Why do so many people hear ML say one thing and immediately believe he meant the opposite? I always thought he was very up front and honest.
I can't believe the Board have taken this decision lightly & 3 years is a long contract to give out as we know to a rookie manager at any level , and to appoint an even younger assistant seems madness but there's no way on the earth would the Board appoint Monk & Pep without considering the implications of him failing .I'm not enamoured by his appointment but it goes without saying that he'll get my support as with everyone else's . Therefore On Wards & Upwards & 3 points Sunday please
Underwhelmed and uninspired and unsurprising decision. The least I would have expected was to at least consider other options and have some sort of interview process. W4 D4 L8 9 games without a win hardly an inspiring record to offer a 3 year deal on. Monk can know the club inside out and back to front that has nothing to do with his ability to build a team or be tactically aware or even to inspire players and get the best out of them. Those are the things that matter IMHO. As for the "Swansea Way" didnt that get found out towards the end of our first season? I seem to remember people bleating about how we were gonna suffer with 2nd season syndrome (another myth) and that we had to change things up if we were to survive another season in the Premiership!! So I am left to ponder exactly what Garry is brining to the table of an established Premiership team nad how he is going to take us forward. If Giggs and Sherewood are not good enough to manage in this league I fear the worst for us. Like others have said I will support and follow the club no matter what just not confident for the coming season.
And quite frankly if they trust him, that's good enough for me, as they have the best interests of the club at the forefront of their decisions.
So far off the mark there im afraid....maybe that you are far away you might get that impression but i can assure you that is not the case and people are pleased for monk and looking forward to next season with him at the helm....there has been nothing but praise for monk from all quarters.
Taking this thread as a cross section of opinion its quite clear that around 65% / 75% arnt really comfortable with the choice, hardly all quarters! What i will also say that most in fact probably all are rooting for the guy and are desparate for him to do well.
