Monk - A Bigger Job Than We Realise?

he didn't inherit this squad , they're his team . his selection , his tactics , substitutions , it may takes seasons to reach the PL but it's dam side quicker to drop out of it so he hasn't got seasons ,we don't expect to win every game but we do expect to compete in every game ,that 30 points could also remain at 30 points at the seasons end , and finally if Monk can't turn this slump around the I'm afraid he won't be here for a very long time at all

 

no sensible fan would agree with you and would agree with the club every time..Know your football or you will be making silly comments like the monk haters on here that have been shot down in flames with how good monk has been with a rubbish team....Patience is needed here and thank god the club are backing monk all the way and everyone who understands what is happening....Remember we have 30 points already totally unheard off by any other past managers..

 

I don't expect you to agree which is fine but please don't think that you're the spoke person for the masses any more than I am .I can't be arsed to re quote one of your beauties from the past when you are on record of saying just how good this current squad of players are and if you believed that at the time which I'm sure you did then what changed your mind about their abilities .The trouble is with you is that you're not big enough to admit that you may be wrong in the Monk's appointment but believe one thing no one who supports the Club takes any pleasure in watching our decline and if that means highlighting the mangers defiencies in a job which he was not prepared , trained or mentally equipped to do then so be it .He'll survive what ever happens and good on him for having the balls to try it but sometimes you have to hold you hands up and say sorry .

 

If we already have 30 points, how can the team be rubbish?

 

"Yes, we finished seventh, which was one place higher than the previous season, but I put that achievement down to the attitude of the players rather than anything Paulo Sousa gave us", G Monk

 

I couldn't work out what the f#*k was going on for a bit there! The new format of the not606 site automatically removes ignored posts. When I spotted the button, I could see Dai's posts.

You shouldn't be so hard on him. There are millions of people all over the globe that follow an ideology blindly and Dai's ideology happens to be his own. If his ****e displaces your (frankly overrated) common sense, you need to let it go and be happy that his world is his own utopian wonderland.

 

We can talk about the job size, the rookie manager, our decent league position and whether our squad is better now or not. The fact remains we are pants right now with the odd exception and have been for some months. If you disagree with that then that's fine but I doubt you've watched the games. As Swans fans we should all be concerned about that and putting a gloss on things doesn't reflect reality imo.

 

Now that's just being naughty

 

I happen to think the position we're in is good. That is down to Monk.
I happen to think the football has been poor the last 5, 6 or even 7 games. That also has to be down to Monk.
What next?
Sack that guy that got us to this position despite the ****ty football? Because that's what some people seem to be implying. I suppose then, it comes down to a simple question.
Monk in or Monk out?

In - we have to take our chances with more below par football and hope we can make it to safety.
Out - we try to find someone that can do a better job.

 

Monk is going through a rough patch. Every manager/team goes through them. Now is the real test for Monk over the next 5-6 weeks to see if he can turn it around.

 

My opinion would be ,unlikely to happen but rather than sack the man and cause more distraction to an already disrupted small squad bring in someone to guide Monk , I'm not aware of anyone having Monks ear with the exception of Cloet , Curtis and KOL so maybe that's all that's needed , simplistic I know . He may make a very good manager one day and I hope he does but perhaps this was a step too big to make on his own .

 

Nothing backs the monk haters whatsoever and everything backs what monk has done so far 100%...These are facts and my last word on the subject. there is no argument about it so why should i bother ...I will just laugh like i always do at some of the bizaar comments

 

You can't possibly be happy with what we saw yesterday or over the past weeks can you? Doesn't that knock something off your 100%?

Only a few have shouted Monk out I think. But I'll be shouting it myself if he doesn't sort this out. If he gets the plaudits because great performances, good subs and good tactics are down to him then poor performances, poor subs, poor tactics are all down to him too. Gary.

 

You also laugh when we lose so what does that prove?

 

Spot on! I happen to think Monks done a good job in general but lets not paper over the cracks, we have ridden our luck recently and in the last 2 games we have been rubbish! Its not time to push the panic button like a lot on here are doing but it is time to expect a reaction and it is time to get back to our composed, assertive passing style. The response to this mini crisis will tell us a lot about Monk and players and I really hope we see some kind of reaction against Southampton.

 

Some very good posts, and contrary to some of the Monk critics, I think the OP is being a tad lenient to monk, but that does not deflect from his main thrust of the article or task at hand, and in making his case in favour of Monk, I think it's a good and fair one. The obvious dip in performance and team spirit is an issue that no right minded Jack would ignore or wash over, and naturally most of us hope that Monk can turn this around, as to have this discontent or whatever it is in the dressing room on top of Bony's departure could be very damaging in the weeks to come, so for the sake of the club and team, I hope the players and Monk pull together, but if that doesn't happen then we could well be in for a very rough ride.

When you look at the issues, and there are some simmering issues at the minute that may be distracting the team and some of our players, firstly we have at the heart of our forward line a player that not only is self centred but is disruptive too with his media outbursts, note sure what will become of Gomis, but I doubt he will figure in our plans after this season, then you have Shelvey who has got some serious discipline and attitude issues as well, add to that some of our long standing players that are dropping of the pace with age, in the likes of Rangel, Routledge, Dyer, Britton, who cannot be happy knowing they are slowing down, then you have a backdrop of problems that will without doubt effect our game and performances, now it's clearly up to the manager to sort and manage these problems, but he too has issues of his own with the refereeing fraternity, you can see pitch side he is getting a hell of a chip on in with referees, and the team will pick that up big time, and it's a negative effect on the team.

Monk also needs to forget keeping pally with his players, for me all these problems need to be dealt with by Monk firmly and positively and got out of the way, and he really has to start concentrating on his game plan, he needs to define our strengths and start building on them, I think Monk has got to take a firm but fair hand with the team now, because it could all unravel in a rather untidy mess that will see him gone pretty soon otherwise. He's still a Rookie and he is still learning but for me he has got to get his focus back on the game plan ASAP.

 

Some "facts".

This man stated that Monk had assembled our best ever squad at the start of the season.
Now he says the squad is mediocre.
This man will tell you that Monk's signings are an improvement on the Laudrup signings that have since been sold, by Monk.
This man defined success for Swansea City as "finishing in the top 10 and having a good run in the occasional cup".
Michael Laudrup, with his squad of inferior players, not only finished in the top 10 but also led Swansea City to our first major trophy.
In Laudrup's second season he had this inferior squad of his in 12th place, still in the Europa Cup and still in the FA Cup when he got the sack.
This man was already a couple of months into his campaign to sack that manager.
This man is now making endless excuses for Garry Monk despite the fact that he has achieved less with a superior squad, with less injuries and with less fixtures to contend with.
This man claimed only 1 or 2 games in to the Monk reign that Monk had restored the Swansea Way, that our football had improved and would only get better.
Has that happened?

This man has an extremely low IQ.

Dai Twp, don't piss down our necks and tell us it's raining.

 

yeah but no but yeah but no but! Dai, you are the new Vicky Pollard with your 'stream of consciousness' posts - is quite exhausting!

 

It can be probably better described as verbal diarrhoea , with out the odd item of solid mass .I've understand donkeys have a higher IQ, how apt.

 

Didn't Dai at one point claim that this squad was the strongest we have had in a long time.

Now Dai says Monk is doing a fantastic job with a weak squad.

Blimey, Laudrup did a fantastic job then I mean a team not as good as Monks, whilst in multiple competitions, and not that far behind with points. Lets hire him back now our squad is stronger. We will win the league