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Monday 4th November Daily Thread

Discussion in 'Horse Racing' started by Bucks, Nov 3, 2013.

  1. L_M

    L_M Active Member

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    Adam Kirby and David Evans have a moderate chance of a treble at Wolverhampton today with Haadeeth (2.15), Dark Lane (2.50) and Delightful Sleep (4.55), all priced 5/1 or less. Knowing my luck, they'll all be unplaced!
     
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  2. CaptainPops

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    Oh no not another high risk ante post bet... you could lose the lot before we even reach 2014!!
     
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  3. CaptainPops

    CaptainPops Well-Known Member

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    These bookies like to draw you in Dan.... and of course there is on paper value to be had but I like to maintain discipline ..... and no value at all at the end of the day if you dont even get a run for your money....
     
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  4. Reebok

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    5-2 Our Conor SJ

    That'll doomy :D
     
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  5. Sir Barney Chuckles

    Sir Barney Chuckles Who Dares Wins

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    Afternoon, crew. Hope everyone on board is well. Personally, I find all this McCoy rides a winner stuff quite frankly nonsense. A NH saddle monkey sitting atop one as it passes the line is hardly headline grabbing material in my view. LOO-DEE-CRUSS!

    Nothing for me today and I’m not surprised that Mr Henderson, the forum’s favourite trainer, has sidestepped today’s ‘Pertemps Qualifier’ with old boy Lieutenant Miller. Given the fact that top weight, Grands Cru, runs he would have been 9 lbs ‘wrong’ and so I’m sure Mr Henderson quite correctly has opted for another day and another qualifier. The Lieutenant is in safe hands and as they say round my way, ‘In Mr Henderson we trust’.

    Good luck to those who do wager.
     
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  6. Sir Barney Chuckles

    Sir Barney Chuckles Who Dares Wins

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    Very disappointing. Empiracle isn't a young horse either and so you do have to worry about his future career. If they get him back for this time next year the old boy will be rising 8 and have never jumped a hurdle in public!
     
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  7. rainbowview

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    Afternoon all. One for me today URIAH HEEP 4.15 KEMPTON
     
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  8. SwanHills

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    What absolute bollox...<doh>
     
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  9. woolcombe-folly007

    woolcombe-folly007 Well-Known Member

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    Its not exacy high rish but worth taking the chance come the festival that 11/2 could look very big indeed or the other way round lol
     
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  10. Sir Barney Chuckles

    Sir Barney Chuckles Who Dares Wins

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    Calm down, Swanny, old boy. I say no need for language like that! Cor blimey!

    As I&#8217;ve said to you people many times before re NH saddle monkeys provided you have one of the top 50 on board it matters not one iota which one of them it is. They are all excellent riders but very much of a muchness. I&#8217;m far more interested about jockeyship on the level as in that sphere a rider can make a huge difference as they often have only a split second to react and races are on many occasions won or lost by a single action. A great racing brain on the Flat is a huge boon.
     
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  11. OddDog

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    Wasn't big stakes on this one, just like to have a bit of long-range interest on some of the festival races.

    I did have a sizeable wager on Hurricane Fly ante post at 9/2 for last season's Champion Hurdle, plus a special which my bookmaker was offering - Simonsig and Sprinter Sacre to both win at 9/4. It was a profitable venture last year and I will be taking some 11/2 on Hurricane Fly before long for this season's Champion Hurdle.
     
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  12. Cyclonic

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    Good luck to those who line up to take a crack at the Melbourne Cup. There's bit a bit of talk down here, of this being one of the toughest races we've had in donkey's years. There isn't a runner in the field that can be rules out of contention. Some of the best worke in the last week has been the tried and tested warriors of the recent past. Both Dunaden and Red Cadeaux have worked the house down, but both are getting a bit long in the tooth and are burdened with massive weights. History decrees that these type of horses tend to struggle under the impost, so it's a bit hard to get warmed up about them.

    One who does look the goods is Mount Athos. Ran a luckless 5th last year when the race turned into of a sit and sprint affair. Trapped wide down the back, then bashed in the straight, he then had to make ground in a race where they came home the final 600 in 34 and change. He had no hope, but ran a cracker of a race. If the pace is solid, he's in it up to his eyeballs. But if they walk, he has his work cut out. The pace is everything here for him.

    Lloyd Williams goes into the race with a quarter of the field racing in his colours. Green Moon, last year's winner, Sea Moon, Fawkner, Seville, Masked Marvel and Mourayan. Williams is a past master when it comes to grabbing the big prizes during the Spring Carnival. So far this time in, Green Moon has been a mere shadow of his former self. But he's been set for this and despite the weight and gear change, can't be ruled out. Fawkner was brilliant in annexing the Caulfield Cup, but has to be taken on trust at this trip. I'm not having a bet in the Cup, but I've been tempted to have a crack at around the 16-1 odds. Sea Moon is an interesting runner. Mid field in the Arc, but done well here. The word here is the locals in the UK give him a huge shout. Juicy odds too. Williams' horses tend to be on pacers, so would not surprise to see him crack it again.

    Waterhouse's Fiorente is well in commission. Great 2nd last year and is expected to run a great race, but the 6-1 is a bit too short for mine. Foreteller has been finishing off his races of late with much gusto. Flew home in the Coxplate, but another who has to be taken on trust at the trip. Seville looks a rough chance. Been working home well, and should get the trip. another who will need a solid pace. Super Cool likes Flemington and has a habit of being there in the big races. Might surprise at 33-1. Hawkspur had a brilliant 3yo season but has not really shown that form this season. Caulfield Cup Effort was disappointing but has ability. The mare Dear Demi looks to be among the best local hopes. Has been backed for a 7 figure sum. Ran a bottler in the Mackinnon after finishing 3rd in the Caulfield Cup. It takes a champion mare to win this race, is she that? Probably not. Verema fits the same bill.

    Masked Marvel didn't fare too well in the Cox plate, but likes the trip, whether he has the class to go with them when they pull the pin is questionable. The same has to asked of the "tractor" Simenon who will grind home. Long time visitors Godolphin thrown their hat into the ring with Royal Empire who looks as though he'll get the trip. Another that has to be taken on trust. Godolphin, 15 years, no wins. First up here makes it hard. Voleuse De Coeurs has brought after her stunning Irish St Leger win, with this race in mind. Drawn out in no man's land will probably pull her up short of the mark.

    FAWKNER each way. Good luck all.
     
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  13. OddDog

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    Very nice to hear from you Cyc, hope you are keeping well <ok>

    Simenon and Seville my 2 against the field - both e/w. Dutch would've been proud of me.
     
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  14. Cyclonic

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    Yeah mate, firing on all cylinders. Hope you're getting among them. :)
     
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  15. OddDog

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    Would be better without bad scopes (Long Run at the weekend). But otherwise, to quote an old friend of mine, I'm full of piss and vinegar (which I think is good, never really understood what he meant by it <laugh>)
     
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  16. Cyclonic

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    :) I had to Google it.

    Grampa walked up and slapped Tom on the chest, and his eyes grinned with affection and pride. "How are ya, Tommy?"
    "O.K.," said Tom. "How ya keepin' yaself?"
    "Full a piss an' vinegar," said Grampa.

    The Grapes of Wrath. 1938.
     
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  17. You See

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    Afternoon all is anyone taking a risk on AP and foundation man in the 345 at kempton at 5/4 who incidently hasnt got a win yet and is being run at an awkward distance (now I have said that he will probrably win lol).
    I'm going to have a wee ew on porters war who has had a lot af time off the track but 14s looks massive although at 11 there is the big question mark and with an unproven claimer onboard there is a big ask, but the price is big and a couple of weeks ago porters put in a big shift for the first 20 furlongs and faded there after if my memory serves me right the jockey changeis questionable but the distance will suit aswell as the conditions . If porters has improved fitness wise from that run he could win or place a few years ago he would have tore this field apart .
     
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  18. rainbowview

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    Grand Crus not even placed. Glad I had my sensible head on today :)
     
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  19. woolcombe-folly007

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    Glad I only had a fiver left in my B365 account what a pile if **** is the horse ruined now?
     
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  20. Bucks

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    Whooooooooos lovely ride Mr Kirby <cheers>
     
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