Modern Goalkeeping styles

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lifecheshirewhite said:
That's right had some beers in your pubs,then marched off to the ground while the millwall hid.:wink: Feel sorry for millwall,one hell of a put down.
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funny that cos what I saw was your boys having a sing song outside a pub where no one was then had another sing song on an empty station on their way to Millwall <laugh>
 
MIGHTY said:
funny that cos what I saw was your boys having a sing song outside a pub where no one was then had another sing song on an empty station on their way to Millwall <laugh>
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Funny that cos last time I went there,it was full of your fans and last time I walked around the London Bridge area,was full of your fans.Your right though they all seem to have ran off this time.<laugh>
 
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lifecheshirewhite said:
Funny that cos last time I went there,it was full of your fans and last time I walked around the London Bridge area,was full of your fans.Your right though they all seem to have ran off this time.<laugh>
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Chesh did you notice they didn't film your boys getting off the train at Bermondsey and sneaking into the cageway known as cowards walk <laugh>
where no doubt once safely inside had another sing song <cheers>
 
southernwhite said:
Good morning everyone,i thaught one of chippy's replies on the Leeds/Ipswich debate,deserved a look at.
it was his remark about Ipwsich,s second goal & whether it was a goalkeeper error.

Unfortunately it seems to be a modern trend imo for goalkeepers to parry the ball,these days,rather than smother/catch.As there is the chance of showmanship,no matter what the end result might be. All the great keepers from the past,did next to nothing spectacularly,but did most things brilliantly (Banks,Shilton,seamen,and more recently Schmeichel (peter that is),when we watch football matches I bet we all think why did he not just catch it,well it’s possibly because of the media coverage and a straight catch would just not look right in front of camera or to smother a low cross.this is just my opinion would be great to hear others on this subject.
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Chippy, imo, was rrrrr....rrrr...rrr..righ.....it was a keeper error. Weinwald had time to catch and smother, which he should've done, but instead chose to parry the ball back into play just in front of his goal, which resulted in a goal from the unmarked Ipswich player.

Prior to that, Weinwald made a good save from a cross which he actually caught, and held onto the ball.

Not so sure parrying the ball is a modern trend in English football SW, Continental keepers are brought up on, and taught to parry and punch, you see a lot of it in Continental games, and this is Weinwalds first taste of English football, and we saw it in the early stages of Ankergren and Silvestris Leeds careers.

Also, we have a big influx of overseas coaches in England which may be contributing to some keepers parrying and punching more.

IMO, other than outstretched diving saves, if you parry the ball with 2 hands, you can catch the ball with 2 hands.

Like you pointed out, back in the days of Banks, Shilton, Bonetti, Seaman, our own Harvey, Lukic etc, catching the ball was part of being a good keeper, and parrying only came about when there was a flurry of close range shots from the opposition, outstretched diving saves to push the ball round the posts were never classed as parrying back then, just a great save, as it is today.

Back In the days of Banks, Shilton etc, you may have heard the term palming, palming the ball over the bar, or an outstretched dive to palm the ball around the posts......:emoticon-0148-yes:
 
The parrying being referred to in this comparison is when a catch seems a reasonable alternative rather than tipping over the bar, round the post etc. There's two factors that have increased its use, one is a national/cultural thing from different leagues, the other is the modern ball moving more in the air.

Bottom line is continental keepers punch/parry more than uk keepers, but uk keepers do it more than they used to. With the amount of foreign keepers and coaches it was inevitable.

As for wrong or right, it's just decision making. Keepers make a split second analysis on the risk of trying to catch it, and leaving a tap in if dropped, v just getting it away from the danger area.

On sat, wiedwald should have either tried to catch it or if he felt it was risky, parry it away from goal, he parried it back to the penalty spot. Pretty much worst case.

Keeper error, it happens. We move on. Despite all those clean sheets, and having very little to do in most games, he's made a few clangers already, they just haven't cost us points yet. There's a question mark over him for me - I hope he puts in a string of great performances and removes it.
 
Josh-LUFC said:
You are very right. Think it's harsh to be too negative about him based on one game. Has made some good saves so far this season (without anything spectacular)
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To be honest Josh he has not had a great deal to do until Saturday, big Mick nearly did a job on us through his shrewdness, TC has to take note and learn faster imo or we will get caught out, he has to be ruthless with team selection, sorry Anita your out, Berardi must start at Cardiff
 
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