Will it help if i promise to have the training, wear a magic yellow jacket, while standing beside a bucket of water and a fire extinguisher with at least half dozen health and safety advisors looking on. I will also promise to wear a fully fire resistant outfit and asbestos gloves...oh damn just realised asbestos...forget the gloves. I will wear a helmet and safety shoes with a red flag beside me, being waved with the printed words 'DANGER' on. I will also don a gas mask as will all those around me to aid breathing. The only obstacle I now need overcome is wondering to whether let alwaysright light it for me?‎
Pffft been around flares and stuff They don't improve atmosphere, sure they look 'cool', but it's all a show of 'look at me/us' and this coloured light/smoke They add nothing to the atmosphere, you just want to show off brb
WRITING the day after publication of the Taylor Report in the Liverpool Echo, sports editor Ian Hargraves had no doubts about the âsocial cleansingâ intentions of the soon-to-be Baron Waddington and his Tory colleagues: âIf and when Lord Taylorâs report is fully implemented, it will mark one of the greatest social changes to hit this country since World War Two. Instead of being the traditional sport of the masses⦠British soccer will effectively be infiltrated by yuppies, the so-called gin and tonic brigade, who can afford what are likely to be greatly increased prices for admission.â The same day, Harry Chase, chairman of the Liverpool City Councilâs Hillsborough Disaster working party expressed the groupâs reservations about all-seater stadia. âThey can be just as dangerous as terraces if they do not have adequate turnstiles and exits,â he said. - See more at: http://www.thisisanfield.com/2013/11/standing-prejudice-part-2/#sthash.KhbCsKSh.dpuf
To enjoy a society that has even 90% freedom there has to be the balance of the 10% of restriction. This is for the protection of the majority from the mindless idiots out there who do offend on a regular basis simply because they can and want to. Whatever offence and however depravedâ¦..it really is that simple. Or does society 'turn the other cheek'â¦â¦..so that one can get slapped too. Too many bleeding hearts and apologists have brought our country to the level that it is now.
WINDYROG I think we're all in agreement with you - but the problem, as I see it, is that despite the laws there will always be a minority ( for whom those laws were specifically created ) who seem not to care a damn and seemingly are untouchable by the rules. Regulations probably reduce the otherwise full scale anarchy that would prevail - but wont stop the fraction of our society that are hell bent on destruction. I can't offer an answer. Normally I would say that there needs to be a sufficient deterrent - but then capital punishment never seems to prevent murder. I'm not worried if we bring back hanging - I doubt if I'll kill anyone (watch out neighbour) Maybe if punishment fitted the crime there might at least be a sense of [some] justice for victims.
Its far more than 10% to me. So let me look at the freedom of my day; I can't have alcohol on a football coach but i can on a rugby coach I may be subject to a yellow jacket lecture before departing my coach I may have to be body checked or bag searched before entering a football ground I am required to have photo ID at home I am not allowed to have the freedom of choice of whether to 'safe stand' or sit I have been forced to show my ID before taking to my seat, despite being an ST Holder I'm not allowed alcohol at my seat I'm not allowed a can of soda at my seat I'm not allowed a bottle top and it will be removed at home I'm not allowed to smoke at home and there is no reserved area to so I will be shepherded through one turnstile...lol All of the above have applied to me or been witnessed by me at some point and I could go on and on... It dosen't matter how others may feel about the above rules but they do apply to me and my freedom of choice and movement without hindrance -Yet I have broken no laws?
brb You do realise that you wont win - and probably may not have the sympathy from us that you deserve ! A problem with your post No. 30 is that IF you had transgressed all the rules relating to each one of your list - it doesn't mean that you are a bad person. It means that the people whose ball it is, wants you to play by their rules. A lot of rules do not have any moral bearing. You could say that you disagree with abortion - quoting all sorts of moral argument. However, in this country, abortion is legal - so your protestation is futile. You can apply the reverse argument as fits the occasion in other walks of life - such as bottle tops etc. I might think the rule ridiculous - but I am compelled to abide by them because I'm not in charge. Rules do need to be fair & equitable - hence my mischievious inclusion of our season ticket nonsense - which only applied to a particular set of supporters.
But the reason the rules exist in my eyes is because people are too frightened, can't be asked, to lazy, just accept, maybe agree with them to voice contrary opinion. You know what i'm like when they try to search us at the turnstiles, being older we tend to be able to use influence of age to divert past them. What ground was it at, that we were told that we could not stand there at a particular space and that stewards would remove us? Did we care No, did the stewards want an argument? No. We applied the simple principle that you have to stand by what you believe and be prepared to either ignore or adapt the rules and how we didn't kick off at Wolves I will never know, we came close that was for sure. Because every rule will lead to another and that's what i believe.
brb it was at AFC Wimbledon - blimey -with your memory you could easily plead 'amnesia' if you break rules.
lol - my memory is terrible at times. At least I know the divide between Wales and England and can still remember the name of the team. I wonder if that guys still thinking about it haha
